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枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / TN失败案例，请大家出主意 74啦。 好不容易找到一工作。太衰了:(幸运拿到一offer.是IT的。 第一签没通过，第二签又没过。已被告知不能再签。这种情况下近期还能进美国吗?
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-21
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you have to give us more details so that we might help you: e.g. for what reasons they rejected your applications? which border? your degree? job title? etc
-d682(菜鸟车手);
2009-4-21
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BSC, job title : computer system analyst. 被拒是因为在给公司打电话时候公司老板说错话了。说了programming占工作的主要部分。
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-21
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请问一下现在从陆路过美国，是不是还是只要公民卡和驾照就可以了?
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-21
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That's right, but will require passport after June.
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-21
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谢谢
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-21
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It must be before June 1, 2009.
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-21
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谢谢啊
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-21
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You have to find another job then, as they recorded your application information in their system. Which border (Toronto Airport?) called you boss? Never happened to me (renewed 5 times already). You'd better try another border next time.
-d682(菜鸟车手);
2009-4-21
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calgary border. 当时有三个人都被打了电话的。
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-21
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How about them? All denied?
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-21
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有个老印度过了。还有一个最早去的没过。
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-21
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You know their job titles?
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-21
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不知道，没和他们交流
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-21
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你是在哪个border? Toronto airport?
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-22
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Montreal, peace bridge and Kingston three different borders
-d682(菜鸟车手);
2009-4-22
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如果在一个border 给reject 了, 另一个border 的电脑能查得出吗?
-into(候鸟);
2009-4-22
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以前不知道，现在可以
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-22
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那换border 签也没用啊?
-into(候鸟);
2009-4-22
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When did they call the employer? During the interview?
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-21
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yes
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-21
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看来现在真的紧了。以前签TN哪有打电话这一说，一般都是周末去签的，老板啥么的都不上班。
-windydays(风和日丽,不再windy);
2009-4-21
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同情一下, 可是老板也不算说错吧, 本来就是一个programmer工作. 老美的经济已经差到连加拿大小弟也顾不上了.
-z24(Quick! Do sth. manly);
2009-4-22
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不是老板错了，而是你的工作就是程序员。
-happpyfuture(ED);
2009-4-23
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再问一下，我现在奇怪如果陆路过去那么护照肯定没记录的，那么我在美国可以合法的呆多久呢?
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-22
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US side does scan your passport, several friends have had the same experience. I think you can stay for up to 6 months at a time.
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-22
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可陆路过去不是只用公民卡和驾照吗? 就是说他们不会看护照。护照上也就没有进关的记录了，是吗?谢谢你，回答了我那么多问题。对了，你每次成功renewTN，是在哪个border?
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-22
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Yes, in your original question, I thought you meant no record of your passport if you use it. You don't need to show your password before 6/1 if you use citizen card and driver's license. I did not apply for TN. It's 菜鸟车手who got TN renewals.
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-22
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TN doesn't like programmers. You have to be a Systems Analyst. Looks like you need to find a new job which "does less programming".Years ago, a friend of mine got rejected because the letter says he'd be a programmer. He changed the letter and got the TN from a different border crossing.
-wincity(toad);
2009-4-22
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After the first denial, you should call your attorney immediately instead of trying the second time by yourself.
-lili1973(Lili);
2009-4-22
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thanks
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-22
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I agree: getting a lawyer's representation may actually make a difference. You need to work on the job description with the employer.
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-22
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就是出在老板上，border officer called him，他说错话了，说的是做programming 多。结果就完蛋了。
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-22
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Why do you need a lawyer? The border officers are computers. As long as you make everything fit their model, you'll be fine. Remember: you're a Systems Analyst, not a programer.
-wincity(toad);
2009-4-22
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小公司，没有律师，是老板哪里出了篓子。
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-22
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Did you get your BSC in US or Canada?
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-23
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yes, I got BSC in canada
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-23
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i heared the systm analyst's min salary must be >60k to get TN visa
-freener(合适);
2009-4-23
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这个不知道
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-23
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NAFTA has not specific salary requirement for any listed occupation.
-rxla(Tiger);
2009-4-24
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That's not true. I got it with 32k.
-borg_cn(黄非红);
2009-4-24
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最大的失误就是去错BORDER了
-tonyhao(tonyhao);
2009-4-23
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哪里容易点?
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-23
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不能再签是什么意思, 是针对这个offer还是针对人？
-borg_cn(黄非红);
2009-4-23
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针对这个offer
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-23
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那没辙了，只好再找一个offer了
-borg_cn(黄非红);
2009-4-24
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it is not easy to get a job offer. :(
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-24
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easy, if 5-6w or lower
-peteryu(最受欢迎);
2009-4-24
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美国的不好找呀，人在加拿大，发了许多了简历都没回音， 人家要local的。。你能提供多点的信息吗?
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-24
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You could enter US, but you cannot work in US. However, I recommend you need to find a lawyer for your case. BTW, you got denied at the same border or 2 different borders. Thanks
-longhope(hope);
2009-4-23
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Two different border
-lucy68(lucy);
2009-4-23
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