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枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / Does anyone know anything about IOWA? I got an offer from a small city. Just wondering what the life there looks like.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-9
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什么生活? 去了就知道了,收入怎么样? 公司怎么样?小声问一下您是学什么专业的?
-chinayt(lasagna);
2007-11-9
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Would be easy if I have made my decision. It is an Electrical Engineer position.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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如果是几万人的小town, 会boring死的
-kwirky(kwirky);
2007-11-9
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Thant's my main concern. I have a school age boy. It would be nice if there are some chinese.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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我住的小镇才1,600人口,但是也活过来了,虽然寂寞和冷清,那也是一个小镇风情。。
-happpyfuture(ED);
2007-11-11
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以前在一个6万人的美国小城住了3年,现在怀念死了。
-wireless_mouse(无线小滑鼠);
2007-11-11
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我曾经在德国的一个小城(五万人)住过半年,没有一个中国人,甚至没有几个说英语的。那生活简直让人想自杀。
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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well, if you HAVE to live in a place where chinese are more than a few, don't go to iowa.
-wireless_mouse(无线小滑鼠);
2007-11-11
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Not necessarily. Otherwise I would just stay in Toronto. I was just scared by the fact that there is no Chinese at all, but it looked like there are quite a few in IOWA CITY. I would like to visit some Chinese friends once a while.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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With western people, you can still make friends, but not "friend" type of friends.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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是不是仅供怀念?
-baokao(宠辱不惊可使得);
2007-11-11
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还不错,房价特便宜,生活节奏慢,Des Moines, Iowa City, Ceder Rapid 有不少中国人。就是冬天有点儿冷。
-rollinger(大嘴张);
2007-11-10
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Thanks. I took a taxi tour around the city (Cedar Rapids) before I left. The driver told me there is no Chinese here. The population is about 150,000.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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Have you been to or living in IOWA before. If so, could you tell me more about it? I am making a hard decision. Thanks
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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我在Des Moines呆了半年,刚离开那儿一个月。总的来说,IOWA 是典型的中部州,一马平川,有些丘陵。经济以农业为主,不过最近几年,Des Moines的保险业,Cedar Rapids 的工业发展很快,都有大公司入住。当地人视华人为客人,很客气,能不能交朋友看个人。华人聚会主要通过教会。人气当然不能跟多伦多比。生活悠闲,物价便宜,20几万就可以买有几亩地的房子,做地主。气候也还可以,同多伦多相仿。如果你想平静的过日子,那地方还不错。
-rollinger(大嘴张);
2007-11-11
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能不能请你到PUB喝两杯?看来我是想去了,想找你聊一聊那的情况。如果有空的话,请赏脸。
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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我不在多伦多,谢了。
-rollinger(大嘴张);
2007-11-11
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如果在多伦多有工作,就不要折腾了.那地方一定不比多伦多,而且现在加币贵过美元,真想不出还去那种地方折腾干什么.
-really_really(是吗);
2007-11-11
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你说的有道理。如果我是计算机专业,也许根本不会考虑这个问题。我在多伦多都快六年了才挣扎回一个跟专业占点边的职位,山姆大叔这边频频诱惑。实在难以抗拒。对这个职位感兴趣的原因还是多伦多:那里平均房价¥100,000,我在多伦多还没有买的起房子。
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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而且那些才叫真正的detached,不像多伦多,一排独立屋远看就像townhouse。
-wireless_mouse(无线小滑鼠);
2007-11-11
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如果是这样,那就意味着你必须这样做,优先级已经在那儿放着了,那就不要考虑生活质量的问题了.
-really_really(是吗);
2007-11-11
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Does this mean the quality of life has to be sacrificed? After all, I have an acceptable job here, even though not a ideal one.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-11
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我不在多伦多,不过还是谢谢了。
-rollinger(大嘴张);
2007-11-11
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比较牛的人找工作的标准是起码20万以上人口的城市,这才有一定生活质量。几万人的小地方劝你还是别去。
-meghat(大头);
2007-11-11
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自认为还不能列入牛人队伍。今年的机会多源自市场空前好,退回2003,难以想象会有这末多机会。我没有往加州纽约投简历主要是因为房价和孩子的教育(私校)费用太高。IOWA的公立学校名列前茅,房价又奇低。当然我这是马后炮,当时投简历的时候只是因为这家公司在行业有名。
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-12
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regarding house price
-omega4(omega);
2007-11-12
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500k 的房子你需要贷款350k吧, 200K的房子你只需要贷款50K, 美国的房子已经跌了很多了,即便TORONTO的房子不跌价,上涨的空间也是有限了.从房子方面来看,楼主去绝对是正确的。房价也有波峰波谷,如果现在是波峰的话,再过10年可能还是现在这个价位。如果你在加拿大的话,背负着350k的贷款压力,我不知道活得又有多潇洒。在美国打拼几年,住得好,生活也没有多少压力,又有大公司工作经历。
从个人角度来说,也不喜欢美国的小城市,但是美国其实还 又很多房价便宜的打城市,象HOUSTON, DALLAS等等。工作好找,华人社区很大,房子便宜。
-longway99(江月);
2007-11-12
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Thanks for your kind comments. You are right. House value in small towns is not likely to go up a lot if at all.if I can afford a 500k house in Toronto, I will probably stay. What I can afford are those 300k houses that aren't likely to go up much either. It is a good offer with a good relocation package, so I would like to give it a try.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-12
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去吧,去吧,年轻的时候不折腾,什么时候折腾呀?要是真的不喜欢,n年之后去大城市就是了.人生的意义就在于折腾
-thiamin(梅干菜烧肉);
2007-11-12
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Whatever your decision is, Good luck.
-omega4(omega);
2007-11-12
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楼主其实已经说的很明白了,如果他能负担500K的房子,他不会走的。我知道很多朋友不想折腾了,因为他们500K以上的房子,几年前买的,已经付得差不多了。
-longway99(江月);
2007-11-12
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I was in Minneapolis for 1 year. Its population is over 2Mil. I felt bored after 6 months and had to retreat back to Toronto shortly before 1 year was up.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2007-11-12
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Wow! Thanks, guys! I believe I have made up my mind. If I may ask, does anyone have any idea how to use the relocation package? I haven't got the policy in paper yet, but just in case any of you have experience to share.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-12
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relocationIn my case, the company arranged and paid for everything (moving, hotel, meals, etc). If they pay you a lump sum of cash to cover everything instead, then you need to arrange the moving yourself. Call them to find out if you can't wait.
-omega4(omega);
2007-11-13
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Thanks. You are right, I will get a lump sum of cash on my first pay check.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-14
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I lived in Cedar Falls for 2 years and Ames for another 3 yrs, any specific question?
-wind_det(Wind_det);
2007-11-13
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You are the man!!! Thanks. Are you in Toronto right now? If so, I would definitely like to invite you for beer. There are just too many questions I am going to ask. I guess the important ones are:where to find the Chinese community? Any information on school (middle and high)? I am also sending you my contact through PM.
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-13
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大虾,帮忙啊?谢了。
-intj(INTJ);
2007-11-14
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