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枫下佳缘 / 情爱悠悠 / 是否该成为单身母亲
-confusedagain(confused);
2007-7-31
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为什么要死盯着这个男人,这种男人么,就别和他浪费时间了,早点蹬了,早点了事。这个世界上就别的好男人了么?就算年级大了也不能够草草就这么生个孩子。keep seeking.
-tracyd(假若明天来临);
2007-7-31
(#3841909@0)
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Nothing is wrong with the man, cause he had already told the woman what was in his mind. Don't blame him, instead, she needs to find one who is willing to be her husband and her child's father.
-asker(amour);
2007-7-31
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although the relationship has the consent of both, but once the man has the lady preg and she changes mind, He could still be held as liable for the child as his vs hers.to get a sperm donor, just go to the sperm bank and ask them to get it from an Asian, preferably Chinese.
-buma(蔓毒黛扬);
2007-7-31
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(#3842143@0)
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Not at all, cause the man was just like a sperm donor without being paid, so that he actually did the woman a favour, if she couldn't find a better solution.
-asker(amour);
2007-7-31
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I'm afraid you are wrong!As a sperm donor, he's not allowed to know the receiver.
-bobyface(Focus-Hocus-Pocus);
2007-7-31
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Yes, he is not allowed, if he got clients through agencies, but if he is the woman's friend, and the woman asks him for a favour, it is a different case. Some gay couples have their biological children through their lesbian or straight female friends.This is not a secret.
-asker(amour);
2007-7-31
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(#3842247@0)
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that;s not the situation here, they have had a relationship for a time period and broke up just not long b4, if the lady changed her mind later again, the man will have a fatter chance to be held liable.it all depends on the woman how to play the cards right. so from the man's perspective, he better get himself out of this trouble.
-buma(蔓毒黛扬);
2007-7-31
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Thanks for discussing with me, but I think you and I might have different understanding of whatever LZ has written. For my understanding, the man told the woman the truth, while the woman didn't understand the truth. Bye bye.
-asker(amour);
2007-7-31
(#3842267@0)
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WOW !
-babyface(★Doctor Who★);
2007-8-2
(#3846276@0)
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坚决顶!别害怕,加拿大的法律没有父亲可以不负责的一说,我可以告诉你很多故事。不过如果可能的话,能找个其他人做父亲不更好吗?这个男人太精了。从你贴看,他有另外交女友,又不放过你,两边不负责,把你们当什么!为你不平!!
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-7-31
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(#3842016@0)
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我们medical ethics课上有很多例子,一个女律师来讲的,加拿大的法律是根本不允许男人有不负责的行为的,除非那个男人吃救济。听课的时候所有的女生都叫好,就差点把那个律师当希拉里来崇拜了,大快人心!
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-7-31
(#3842071@0)
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It depends, though. :) Theoretically, the man was a sperm donor without being paid, so that he had no legal responsibility to raise the baby, even though he was the biological father. The similar situation happened to some lesbian or gay couples as well.
-asker(amour);
2007-7-31
(#3842231@0)
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just out of curiosity, can donation be carried out by intercourse?
-ffuunn(人约黄昏);
2007-7-31
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If they are friends, it will depend on their choice, but if through the third party agencies, no way.
-asker(amour);
2007-8-1
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即使男人出于好意,一旦有孩,也需负责,这是加拿大法律,很偏向妇女的。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-7-31
(#3842455@0)
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课上说了很多例子,一个非常极端的真事是,一个女孩利用在一个男性朋友的垃圾中找到的避孕套怀了孕,找那男人负责,那男人认定自己从未与女孩有过关系,女孩被迫说出真相,法庭判定男方付抚养费。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-7-31
(#3842456@0)
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另一个例子是,一个男孩出于友谊,给一个朋友捐了精,女孩利用这生下了一个小孩。但精子未用完,女孩偷偷存在了精子库。很多年后,女孩又利用存着的精子怀了孕,打官司,当时男孩已去外地,根本不知道这事。法庭判决男子负责,即使女孩未通知他再一次利用精子库。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-7-31
(#3842467@0)
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当时我们所有女生的感觉就是:加拿大法律对妇女太好了。所有男生的感觉就是:害怕。课堂讨论了如果喝醉了当然要负责,即使女孩利用手段怀的也得负责,如上述的避孕套的例子。而且女孩可不必对自己的小孩负责,男方必须。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-7-31
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偶个人觉得帖子中的男人太不该,有了女朋友还缠着楼主不放,把楼主当免费的--,这样的男人一定要整整他。而且科学统计单身母亲抚养的孩子更易成才-----
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-7-31
(#3842480@0)
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文章里并没有任何语句suggests这个男的“缠”这这个女的不放呀?只是说那个男的有了新女友还和她交往。女方知道这个事实,男方没有胁迫,如何谈得上纠缠?分明女的自己也愿意
-ffuunn(人约黄昏);
2007-7-31
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是的,俺也觉得女的应该断。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-7-31
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难怪!!!有次我去一所学校咨询, 听到旁边的女学生说:在加拿大缠住男人最好的办法就是生个孩子给他!!!
-tw200501(孺子牛);
2007-8-1
(#3842606@0)
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你真的很善良!可我怎么觉得那男的说出那么无情无义的话,两人又有情感瓜葛,万一真决定做单身母亲女的还不如从精子库买精子呢!至少不会遗传那男人的无情性格&日后引发纠纷烦恼。而且如果母亲怀孕前明知不能给孩子幸福健全的家庭却单亲,在根本上对孩子其实是不负责任的。
-xiang2xingfu(可人儿);
2007-7-31
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nodding........就算要做单身妈妈,也不一定要用这个男银额sperm.........
-elynyu(囧 伤 伤 伤);
2007-7-31
(#3842499@0)
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MM怎么想起这个昵称?太灰了,不如换了吧:)
-xiang2xingfu(可人儿);
2007-7-31
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呵呵:)谢谢关心..........
-elynyu(囧 伤 伤 伤);
2007-7-31
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记不清了,好像加拿大法律对单身女孩申请精子库有严格规定。反正法律上的事要先问问清楚的。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-7-31
(#3842508@0)
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她不想用精子库,怕不知道小孩的父亲是谁,这样至少还知道小孩的生父。
-confusedagain(confused);
2007-8-1
(#3842613@0)
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她是不是还对那男人心存幻想或者爱到愿赌服输的地步?
-xiang2xingfu(可人儿);
2007-8-1
(#3842631@0)
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也许是赶時髦呢
-edcw(说着玩的);
2007-8-1
(#3842659@0)
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天啊!这哪里还有天理啊!!!
-pants(啤酒,还有没?);
2007-8-1
(#3842856@0)
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我看过一个电影内容跟这个很类似。一个男人在酒吧认识一个女孩就一夜情了,他当时非常注意用了措施。一年多之后这男的正准备跟未婚妻结婚,结果欢喜甜蜜的俩人在家里接到政府发来的函件叫男的上法庭,是有关他孩子的抚养费的事情。
-whatislove(什么是爱);
2007-8-1
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不错的结局, VERY CREATIVE
-sunbeamcga(二月鱼飞);
2007-8-2
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充分证明了男人的感情是靠不住的!一会爱这个,一会爱那个,什么时候有个准啊!
-cjlmxbt(超级辣妹小白兔);
2007-9-7
(#3916838@0)
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那是电影!!!由那个黑人大妈演的
-arfeifei(老顽童);
2007-9-7
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oh, how could she even think that way.
-summer07(夏天);
2007-7-31
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如果你朋友真的这么喜欢要孩子的话, 可以去精子库里申请啊. 但应该不知道生出来是什么了? 白的, 黑的, 还是黄的...或是杂的.
-redhotchili(Red&Hot);
2007-7-31
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哀其不幸,怒其不争。她应紧急而慎重的处理这问题。如果她认为这很重要的话,应该咨询专业人士。这8卦论坛信息没用。Frankly, the man didn't do anything wrong,and should not be blamed.
-base998(山寨王);
2007-7-31
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我看不出这个男的哪里做得不对。如果谁认为有,不妨列举一下,让俺也受受教育。带情绪骂人的不要,就事论事的干活!
-ffuunn(人约黄昏);
2007-7-31
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Absolutely, nothing is wrong with the man, but something must be wrong with the woman, cause it seems that she has no idea what she really wants: a husband with their child, or a child without a husband.
-asker(amour);
2007-7-31
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偶买嘎!!BS这男人!!!
-elynyu(囧 伤 伤 伤);
2007-7-31
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四十多岁的人了,又不是小孩子,难道连自己想要干什么都不清楚么?
-pingaling(Doraemon);
2007-8-1
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有人问这男人错在哪里?其一,旧的说法,不要后代。不孝有三,无后为大,此男人为不孝也。其二,新的说法,另交女友,还继续和楼主保持关系,对两边都不忠诚,此男人为不忠也。不管新旧说法,此男人不忠不孝,留着何用,拖出去杀了。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-8-1
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But the key is that nobody forced the woman to stick to the man, didn't it? Therefore, in my opinion, the woman is the only one who is supposed to take the whole responsibility instead of the man.
-asker(amour);
2007-8-1
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一个巴掌拍不响。
-pingaling(Doraemon);
2007-8-1
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But still, the woman is not wise to even dream about having a child with that kind of man.
-asker(amour);
2007-8-1
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i actually agree with you...is not like the guy is cheating on her. she knows what's going on and still chose to stay with the guy. so , clearly, she knows what's coming up and should take the consequence
-pingaling(Doraemon);
2007-8-1
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Actually, the woman is still in love with the man, all she wanted to do is to carry his babies instead of others. If the man does not want to take any responsibilities of their future baby, he could just refuse to offer the sperm.........
-fattyfish(囧新马甲好心情耶!);
2007-8-1
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Or more so, she had no other choice and was afraid of loneliness?
-asker(amour);
2007-8-1
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yes....c's physically women are different from men......sad......
-fattyfish(囧新马甲好心情耶!);
2007-8-1
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两个巴掌啪啪响!!!
-arfeifei(老顽童);
2007-9-7
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这种网吧但男人肯定会不负责任的,只是想玩弄了你,放手开始新生活吧
-pants(啤酒,还有没?);
2007-8-1
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我倒是觉得这个男人是个糊涂虫,但不坏。帮忙不是这么个帮法。你即使跟她结婚都不想再要自己的小孩了,不结婚怎么能生呢,给自己身边安了炸弹,只要女的什么时候一拉,自己的生活随时都会被炸飞。
-hurrah(猫眼);
2007-8-31
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生个孩子只是为了逼男人负责任, 母亲与孩子的人生未免都有些悲哀。我倒以为要孩子其实是想给自己一个责任, 有人在婚内也未必担的起这责任, 也有人自己一个人也可承担。与其让孩子有个莫名其妙不知所云的父亲,倒不如只有个清清楚楚,独立坚韧的母亲。
-erase(赤橙);
2007-8-1
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楼主其实并不想要她的那个人负责。只是我自己跳出来想做妇女儿童权益的代表人。看到有男人想把责任全揽在女人身上,抱打不平一下。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-8-1
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洪晃的答案:
-cnhk(春暖花开);
2007-8-1
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这种男人你朋友还想为他生孩子做单身母亲?在外面去找一个帅哥生也比给这种男人生好。愿不愿和你朋友结婚生子是他的权利,但是说可以捐精子并不对生出来的小孩负责就是想得便宜的表现了。瞧不起这种人,生的小孩一定也不优秀。
-zhoulin(lin);
2007-8-1
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agree.
-hayu(fishing);
2007-8-2
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竟然有敢这样对女人说话的男人,还不煽他两巴掌。
-consonant(刹车油门不分);
2007-8-1
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真是一个好坑!经济独立,人格独立的女人借一个男人的sperm,这件事真没什么错。你不是在为自己活吗?你的ex是死是活,跟谁好,跟你没关系。既然生的起孩子,就要也养的起孩子,因为很多案例证明,child support是不够你抚养小孩子的。另外单身母亲面临的经济压力和精神压力都是不同于常人的,如果你够坚强,够独立,那么就go ahead.跟他借个sperm, 让他从此leave you and your kid alone,多酷呀!
-eaglebrook(溪流);
2007-8-1
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你说的很有道理,nodding
-confusedagain(confused);
2007-8-2
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有什么必要借这个想起来就伤心的无情人的精子呢? 精子库的都是经过严格检测过的,捐精过程前后最少需要8-9个月的时间,需要多次采集+复查(!!不是你说个笑话那样随便的!!)
-happysmile(快乐小路);
2007-8-2
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小路,你说得特有道理!这个问题越探讨越专业了。:D
-eaglebrook(溪流);
2007-8-3
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哦,你终于给我平反了!我有道理,你。。。青天大人,感谢您的英明,感谢党和人民,流泪ing。。。
-happysmile(快乐小路);
2007-8-3
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(#3848125@0)
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你这样狠不好,好像我欺负你,我没有,SG,你是人民心中得偶像呀
-eaglebrook(溪流);
2007-8-3
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小路是什么专业的?任何事都有条有理,头头是道,佩服佩服。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-8-3
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看我的贴,很多男人可能会觉得加拿大法律是否对男人不公。其实不会,你们如仔细想一下,这法律其实是在保护大多数纳税人的,即大多数男人的。你想,法律毕竟还是男人们定的。
-int_arts(int_arts);
2007-8-1
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You are sharp and deep. :)
-asker(amour);
2007-8-2
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你对立法似乎有误解,法律并不是总是占多数的人投个票就可以替他们自己定的,有很多因素要考虑。举个最简单的例子:加拿大允许同性恋结婚,可是,主张异性结婚的人不是更多么?
-happysmile(快乐小路);
2007-8-4
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主张异性结婚和允许同性结婚并不矛盾。有人(同性恋)提法案,然后辩论,表决,异性恋的因为觉得允许同性结婚不仅不伤害他们自己的利益(异性恋的并不想和同性恋的结婚),而且对社会稳定及税收有帮助
-newdonkey(me);
2007-8-4
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(你知道每年来加拿大结婚的同性恋给加拿大带来多少收益吗),所以就同意了。因为同性恋结婚不妨害异性恋结婚呀。可是如果要所有纳税人为了某小搓不付责任的男人而买单,大家当然是不干的。所以并不是因为照顾女性的原因。
-newdonkey(me);
2007-8-4
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如果真想做母亲,四十二了,也不能再拖了,要做就自己决定做。
-justhappy(happy girl);
2007-8-3
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是呀,哈,不用等到再老一点,就是现在想“愿意生羊”,也生不出来,难度太高了
-eaglebrook(溪流);
2007-8-3
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关于想做单身母亲的那篇文章我来回答你的答案, 其实男的都是喜欢自己的孩子的, 但是会考虑到小孩的基因问题, 42 的人了, 高龄产妇问题多, 孩子要是没有问题, 还好说, 要是有什么问题, 谁愿意去TAKE THE RISK 呀. 我知道一个人,46, 男, 没有小孩, 很想要小孩, 但是他都说不是自己好色, 还是想和一个30左右的人有个孩子,
-yoyohappy2008(yoyo);
2007-8-31
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(#3905107@0)
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我赞成这个。让你的朋友好好考虑一下这个意见。
-lealealea(leah);
2007-8-31
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不应该。她以后完全可以结婚,然后收养一个。一个人经历怀孕生子的特殊过程,很累,身心承受太多。
-lilyba(sunshine 阳光灿烂);
2007-8-31
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想要就要,如果经济有保障的话。自己的生活,自己做主。但一定要好好教育,免得老来,孩子不孝,还不如没养~
-miss_helen_2000(miss lala);
2007-9-1
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