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枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / 保税的弱智问题:去年我们全家在Ontario 待了5 month, 美国TX 待了7 month. 那么我就是美国的resident alien, 加拿大的none-resident.1) 我应该在美国的tax return中报加拿大的收入, 还是在加拿大的tax return中报美国的收入?还是两个都要报?401k 跟RRSP怎么算?
2) 搬家的费用该在那边报?
3) 美国的resident alien报起来划算还是dual status报起来好?
这边先谢过了!
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-6
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1. Canadian tax return cliam Canadian income and RRSP, US return cliam both incomes and 401K. 2. US. 3. Don't know.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-7
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谢谢回复!US这边还要cliam 加拿大的RRSP吗?
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-7
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For US tax return Form1040,could you tell me where I can put my Canadian income?Thanks.
-jackie690301(baobao);
2007-2-7
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No, You can't.But for US tax return Form1040,could you tell me where I can put my Canadian income? Thanks.
-jackie690301(baobao);
2007-2-7
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买了Tubro Tax,它问你答就好了。具体在那里填我也不知道。正在痛苦计算中。。。
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-8
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Why US return need to claim both incomes?
-tenthcup(一般般);
2007-2-8
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I don't think US tax return need to include your Canada income. I checked with one of Canadian accountant and he said no.
-tenthcup(一般般);
2007-2-8
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My understanding is if you are tax resident in any country, you need to declare your global income. However, you may claim the tax credits too in other countries. The result is your marginal rate will be pushed up.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-9
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I did not make it clearer. The result is likely that you do not need to pay extra tax for your Canadian income, but you will pay more tax for your US income than that if you do not have foreign income.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-9
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Your are right, if one's Canadian income was earned during his/her non-resident period if dual residency has been claimed in US. And that is usual circumtances for majority people. You are perfect right!
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-9
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Just learnt about the dual residency. If you could claim dual, you will be benefited, because you do not need to claim Canadian income assuming that your Canadian income was earned during your non-resident period of US.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-9
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Resident alien 跟 dual resident 有什么具体的区分吗?我只知道在美国去年呆了超过183天就是Redident alien.
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-9
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Just learnt. Dual residency usually happens at first year when you earn income in US. It is possible during the first year, some period is non-resident, some are resident alien.By apply concept of dual residency, you do not need to report your foreign income to US because it happened during the non-resident period.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-10
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Do you mean the first year need to claim as duel residency (not resident alien) even stay in US more than 183days without reporting incomes from outside of U.S.?
-tenthcup(一般般);
2007-2-11
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同问,同问。
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-12
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I really got confused.For dual residency,which Form can I use?I mean Form 1040 or 1040NR? Thanks .
-jackie690301(baobao);
2007-2-13
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That is right.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-13
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As you said, if I claimed as resident alien (not dual status) in US, I have to report the Canadian income? I'm confused too.
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-13
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That is right, you will have to report it.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-14
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我朋友告诉我不需要在美国保税填加拿大的收入,因为我不是美国公民/移民,只有公民/移民在其他地方的收入要报international income.在加拿大的收入中要报美国的收入,但是不确定,因为default你在加拿大呆了少于183天就算none-resident,但是这个要填表让加拿大政府判定,因为还有其他的因素制约。
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-13
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Not sure what you mean.You are right that US citizenship is closely related to taxation resident status in US. However, in this case, there is no difference if you are US citizen, GC holder or non-resident alien.
Regarding Canadian side, if you are non-resident tax status of Canada, you do not need to report employment incomes from foreign source.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-14
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以上的这个情况是对于刚到美国来第一年报税来说的。
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-13
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Please see "First Year Choice" in Publication 519, U.S ...
-guaimom(handsome cat);
2007-2-11
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请给个链接。谢谢!
-ustax(roliatax);
2007-2-11
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Please see "First Year of Residency" and "First-Year Choice" under the Dual-Status Aliens in Publication 519 for inference. You can get it from www.irs.gov.
-guaimom(handsome cat);
2007-2-11
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Publication 519 (2005), U.S. Tax Guide for Aliens
-ustax(roliatax);
2007-2-11
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借楼主的帖问:我朋友去年在加拿大工作十个月,在美国工作两个月,是不是要先报加拿大的税啊?谢谢!
-goodmoodsmile(goodmood);
2007-2-12
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两个都要报,加拿大的税表要写美国的收入。美国的不用。
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-12
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Assume you have no other conditions, you are Canadian resident for whole year and you are nonresident alien for that two months in US. For Canadian return, you will need to file both countries' income. For US return, you need to file US income only.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-13
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这种情况可以按照美国的resident alien报税吗?
-ustax(roliatax);
2007-2-13
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Sorry, what is your "这种情况"?
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-13
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楼主顶楼原帖的情况。
-ustax(roliatax);
2007-2-13
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Sure. They are US resident status. The extra matter is they will need to file Canadian return too.
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-14
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请问最终答案是什么?谢谢!
-ustax(roliatax);
2007-2-13
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从以上朋友给的link跟大家的讨论来看,我这种情况可以claim dual resident或者resident alien.
-maodouchong(summertime);
2007-2-13
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如果按resident alien 可以不报加拿大收入的话,当然是resident alien 合适。
-rainbowtree(不懂);
2007-2-13
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但是好象resident alien 要报海外收入的说。请高手confirm.
-rainbowtree(不懂);
2007-2-13
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是的,resident alien 要报海外收入的。我不是高手,但我可以confirm。
-ustax(roliatax);
2007-2-13
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Welldone. Excellent job!
-registereduser(立牌坊);
2007-2-14
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那我们只能选dual-status 来报了,这种情况好象是要填两张表,1040 和1040NR,而且不能联合报税,不能用standard deduction. 但可以不报加拿大收入。 我的理解不正确否
-rainbowtree(不懂);
2007-2-14
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