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枫下拾英 / 乐韵书香 / 为什么勃拉姆斯这么流行?最近乐晕里聊勃拉姆斯的话题很多,昨天去朗朗的大师课,4个孩子里2个弹勃拉姆斯,那俩曲子,唉,可能我因为不懂钢琴技术吧,比它好听的多了去了。我印象里,老勃也就是个甲B前三名,能不能升级都不一定
-eglington(eglington);
2007-1-26
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看到这一句了:“老勃也就是个甲B前三名,能不能升级都不一定。。” 我。。。无言,无言哪~~~~~
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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马大帅, 任重道远啊,,,
-timberlake(阴险一刀);
2007-1-26
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老哥所言极是,...简直就是mission impossible!
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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看到这一句了:“老勃也就是个甲B前三名,能不能升级都不一定。。” 我。。。无言,无言哪~~~~~ -maer(马儿); 15:14 (#3458274@0)
-jessye7491(琴键上的舞蹈);
2007-1-26
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先说说甲A都有谁?
-ro-ro(天琴座RR);
2007-1-26
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here
-lifesucks(WutzMyNameAgn);
2007-1-26
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完蛋了~~~甲A一溜看下去没个认识的!孤陋啊孤陋。。。
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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完蛋了~~~甲A一溜看下去没个认识的!孤陋啊孤陋。。。 -maer(马儿); 16:13 (#3458483@0)
-jessye7491(琴键上的舞蹈);
2007-1-26
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:)))) 原来甲B才是最高水平D!
-ro-ro(天琴座RR);
2007-1-26
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一语种地!!!不佩服不行。
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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甲B中最了得的尤其要数3B!
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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关于伯拉姆斯我以前曾转帖过好几篇文章, 但没人有反应, 再ZT一段送给伯迷们: <小资的伯拉姆斯>
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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要说的话太多了,竟一时语塞。。。千言万语汇集成为一问句:到底音乐是要反映‘society-forming’ impulse 还是人的内心世界,比如爱?
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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贝多芬两个都达到了, 你还不服?
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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贝多芬的Rasumovksy 四重奏还不够温文尔雅?
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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或者可以这样说:贝多芬的9部交响曲没有一部达到勃拉姆斯交响曲的高度,同时,勃拉姆斯的4部交响曲没有一部达到贝多芬交响曲的高度。明白否?
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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yes, yes, everone is great.......
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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you can get the answer why Brahm WAS considered as a chamber music composer but still wrote great symphony.
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2007-1-26
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Don't take it literally. THe point Bekker made was that Brahms's symphonies are chamber music-like.
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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if we l look at his 4 symphonies,( no matter their form, style, hamony which Maer most like to HY), i am surprised having such statement. his violin concerto and piano concerto also considered as great symphony music also.
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2007-1-26
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all you talk is about form, about structure. Beethoven is beyond this. Beethoven is the Napoleon in music, while Brahms is, well, a bourgeois.
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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essentailly they are the same, Brahm is the Karara schuman in his music instead. it's not a bourgeois, rather, it's the true human emotion which Beethoven's revolution and romance belongs to.
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2007-1-26
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弟所言极是!
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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just few minutes ago Maer talked about how they both reached the same height, now you talk about they are the same. All is great, all is great......
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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looks like you are runing away again.....
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2007-1-26
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当兵的遇到你们这些秀才们了, 再不跑就要出人命了. ;)
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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我们正策划一个“阴谋”。。。到时可能要动用到贤弟。。。先打个伏笔。。。到时不要拒绝!
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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after i installed the firfox, I can read some of chinese but not all of them.(I guess i can read 2 out of 3)
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2007-1-26
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BTY the above post is (ZT) also
-eagle_no1(瞎起哄);
2007-1-26
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2B or 3B???? ------------ How Dare You!!! x_x
-lifesucks(WutzMyNameAgn);
2007-1-26
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贝多芬是冲动的,而勃拉姆斯是温文尔雅的。。。他们所达到的高峰's 没有多少可比性!
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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我喜欢温文而雅。。
-jessye7491(琴键上的舞蹈);
2007-1-26
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温文尔雅的的高峰,是莫扎特,不是勃拉姆斯勃拉姆斯也就一小山包
-hubeir(洞庭湖之北);
2007-1-26
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莫扎特的温文尔雅是小P孩的,或者是老顽童的;而勃拉姆斯的温文尔雅是 非(小P孩,老顽童)的。。。
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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大错特错!好好听听莫扎特的单簧管协奏曲、钢琴协奏曲20及以后...
-hubeir(洞庭湖之北);
2007-1-26
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没有冲动还叫什么艺术家, 最多也就是个工匠.
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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文学上,巴金是温文尔雅的,你不会认为他只是一个“工匠”把?啊~~!?
-maer(马儿);
2007-1-26
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从来就没喜欢过家, 春, 秋.
-klassische(2Bor3B????);
2007-1-26
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伯拉姆斯何尝不是冲动的! 听听他的第二钢鞋, 象冲浪一样, 又冲动又浪漫, 虽然罩在古典的壳子里, 却是无比的激情澎湃. 他的室内乐里也有许多激情爆发的时刻.他的音乐色彩就是没有贝多芬那么鲜明, 好象常常笼罩在一种灰蒙蒙的调子里, 如同绘画里的"高级灰" -- 不是灰色, 是一种调和出来的复色, 饱和度降低了, 却温和, 深沉, 含蓄, 特别能表现出那么一种氛围, 或说一种心境.
-ro-ro(天琴座RR);
2007-1-26
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冲而不动, 或者是心动人不动. :)
-klassische(Go Bears Go!);
2007-1-26
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