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枫下家园 / 望子成龙 / just back from UTS open house, feel disappointed. 1. The labs and equipments are very old. 2. students are same as our children, not very polite as some people say. 3.it is a completely private school now,tuition will be $15,000 next year. 4. Only a few students get admissions from top us universities each year. Admission rate is very low. Most students go to UT after their parents pay almost $20,000 fro them each year. Not worth it. 5. So many chinese students.
-dreamcomingtrue(dreamcomingtrue);
2006-10-21
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I don't see going to a US school is anything better than a Canadian school in the undergrad level.
-jeffrey815(Smartiecat);
2006-10-21
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Disagree....
-polarbear416(polarbear);
2006-10-21
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cannot agree. 1. The school charges higher and higher tuition fees, partly should be paid to upgrade these labs and equipments. In addition, many public schools can grab medals from IOC too.
-dreamcomingtrue(dreamcomingtrue);
2006-10-21
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Your quesiotions are basically about the worthiness of diffenret school systems: private vs. public. This is too big a question. Most of us have passed this stage.Wenxuecity.com once had some hot discussions there with good reference. My suggestion is to get some in-person touch with students in both school systems before making your own mind.
-polarbear416(polarbear);
2006-10-22
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In fact I have known at least two UTS students before I came to the open house. To me, they are same as other chinese students, nothing special.The only difference is their parents, so proud of their children, everything they talk about is how good their children are. It is really annoying.
Honestly speaking, the only purpose I will send my child to UTS is to I want her to go to top US universities, because she wants to be a lawyer, I believe Harvard University is the best choice.
-dreamcomingtrue(dreamcomingtrue);
2006-10-22
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法学院是本科招生吗?
-melan(*..*);
2006-10-22
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本科三年.
-23456789(大白呼);
2006-10-22
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Now we are touching the core. Believe most, daren't say all, of UTS parents hope their kids to go to top U. In your case, UTS can be helpful
-polarbear416(polarbear);
2006-10-22
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although you can't say all, but I believe over 90% of UTS students apply for US top universities. what made me feel disappointed is the admission rate is very low,not much difference from some very good public schools (I mean, #admissions/#applications).
Some people suggest to just let children stay at public schools, because they can get vert high marks, and have more time to attend a variety of competitions and social activities. These competitions and activities play important roles in applications.
you have to admit UTS students spend more time in studying, which means they have less time in attending those activities.
Any comments?
-dreamcomingtrue(dreamcomingtrue);
2006-10-22
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This is an issue being raised and discussed lately.
-polarbear416(polarbear);
2006-10-22
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According to UTS's web site, in 2005 for UTS graduates, , 5% admited to Ivy colleges, 12% admited to US colleges.
-huimin(huimin);
2006-10-22
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" ... you'll realize how exceptional they are." ~~ how? more details? thanks.
-hut112(40VETTE);
2006-10-22
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I only talked with a few parents and realized everyone of them is an educationist meanwhile a realist who has pondered upon almostall the questions posted here and elsewhere. Choosing UTS for their kids is not a random dicision but a result of years of research and comparison.
Most of them are of working class but willing to pay the cost once truly understanding what UTS is. You are welcome to participate UTS events like the annual show mentioned by Beilei here to meet the parents in person.
-polarbear416(polarbear);
2006-10-22
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Can not agree more. 15000 can be used for the kids' university.
-hipacific(crystalblue);
2006-10-21
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This is a realistic question every UTS parent has to answer before placing their kids in UTS entrance exam. As I know, some parents even turned the admission downafter making all the efforts in preparations and going-through the exams/interview. Bottomline is which school system you'd appreciate more, with given budget, plus many other factors.
-polarbear416(polarbear);
2006-10-22
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More information: 12% of the graduates went to US Ivy Universities, 30% of the students came from gifted classes, 75% of the students came from public schools.The current principle was the principle of UCC (Upper Canada College).The affiliation agreement makes the UTS can do fund raising for itself which teachers think is better than before. (really?)
-topcat(tomcat);
2006-10-21
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弄错了. only 5% admited to Ivy colleges, 12% admited to US colleges, Ivy Universities: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Univ. of Pennsylvania, Columbia, Brown, Dartmouth College, Cornell.( total 8)
-huimin(huimin);
2006-10-22
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US News 2006 University Ranking: ( most reputable and acceptable ranking in US) #1 Harvard and Princeton ; #3 Yale; #4 Univ. of Pennsylvania; #9 Columbia Univ. and Dartmouth College; # 13 Cornell ; # 15 Brown Univ.
-huimin(huimin);
2006-10-22
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作为一名UTS学生家长,一直关注这个话题,我想告诉的是
-beilei(芬芳);
2006-10-22
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"在今年的couse curriculum night上,一位家长问老师,what age do you expect to have sex? 一位家长答:40. " --- sorry, i am not quiet understand this one?
-loveyourlife(loveyourlife);
2006-10-22
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" to start", not " to have".
-beilei(芬芳);
2006-10-22
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请问一下. GIFTED 孩子是不是有必要上此类私校呢? 谢谢
-wowo(..);
2006-10-22
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UTS use same teaching methods for all students, no difference between gifted and non-gifted students, opposite to public schools.
-dreamcomingtrue(dreamcomingtrue);
2006-10-22
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Totally unnecessary to put your money there.15000 is for noble private school.
-hipacific(crystalblue);
2006-10-22
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This is a preference issue. Eg., my banker was from a noble private school. When I asked him if he got any help from his alumniin his career path, he said no except recieving news letters saying who has become CEO, CFO, but nothing to do with him. This may be an extreme case. Truth is if I am not part of the noble society, I doubt my kid willbecome one just by attending a noble school.
More likely, my kid might be scorned or left out in a way. And it is difficult to fix.
-polarbear416(polarbear);
2006-10-22
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There are gifted programs inside UTS. You can find it in its manual.
-polarbear416(polarbear);
2006-10-22
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UTS is a very unique school. It is a private school that was once a branch of the University of Toronto, and that is probably why it is so expensive.
-goutsblues(Go UTS Blues);
2006-10-22
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I was told it doesn't belong to UT, it is a lab school for some UT department. Currently it is completely independent.
-dreamcomingtrue(dreamcomingtrue);
2006-10-22
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UTS is a very unique private school. If you look at the fees of top private schools in Toronto, UCC $25000; The Crescent $ 21000; Havergal $ 20000; Branksome Hall $21000; UTS ohly $13000.
-huimin(huimin);
2006-10-22
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