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枫下佳缘 / 情爱悠悠 / 宏伟的出版计划遭到腰斩,老鱼故事的上半身被枪毙了,但欲望船基本通过了三审,活在多伦多也快了.同一个出版社,存在着不同的人和不同的标准,感谢那些喜欢我小说的.另外,我最佩服的人最近增加了永垂不休的蒋老师,他是完美的人,用死向不公平和人间黑暗抗议,
他是学术届的凡高,
他的一生都是华丽和高尚的!
愿他在天堂快乐!
不用再挣扎在这移民路上!
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-2
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"他的一生都是华丽和高尚的!" I can't help shaking while reading this statement. Can you please not idolize him to such a high point? His tragedy results from the fact that he does not know how to be REAL in reality.He is just a common human being, not a saint.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
{45}
(#3117968@0)
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"他...用死向不公平和人间黑暗抗议"? Are you sure? Whom are you talking about? I wonder how he would feel at this.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
(#3117980@0)
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How can a common huamn being kill himself?
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
(#3117996@0)
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How can so many human beings NOT kill themselves in the same world where Mr. Jiang lived?
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
(#3118020@0)
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The answer is the world is different for different person.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
(#3118179@0)
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So that you should not have asked questions like "How can a common huamn being kill himself?" at all in the first place, should you?
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
(#3118969@0)
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He is not a common human being, so his world is different than yours and mine.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
(#3119074@0)
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I don't think you would do that (kill yourself), so there is something different.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
(#3118000@0)
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I will never and ever kill myself despite of whatever happens in the future. I also think just because he kills himself doesn't necessarily mean "他的一生都是华丽和高尚的!" and用死向不公平和人间黑暗抗议"
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
(#3118005@0)
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I respect him, but don't think of him as a hero or role model at all. I more respect those who try to live a life as fully as possible, despite of how hard it could be.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
(#3118011@0)
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Don't encourage or beautify suicide, even if you don't directly mean it. Give him a break and give us Chinese a break please.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
(#3118014@0)
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I am not encourge suicide, but there is something you can not understand, don't judge others based on your knowledge
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
(#3118145@0)
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Why do you think I am judging him? I just express my opinions, which are different from LZ, but absolutely not judgement.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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I just say he is not a common human being like you and me.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
(#3118134@0)
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why not? because he killed himself?
-genie(还行);
2006-8-2
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No, even if he didn't kill himself, there is too much different, not everbody are the same. Someday you will understand.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
(#3118165@0)
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从你们两个对话里学了不少实用英语,你们可得保证都是地道的别误人子弟。另外asker的昵称amour,查了一下金山词霸,到底是“奸情”还是“恋情”?
-zheyi(葱花小油饼);
2006-8-2
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My English is poor, I have to use it because I don't have Chinese input here.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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那我这个跟你学的是不是更poor啦?呵呵
-zheyi(葱花小油饼);
2006-8-2
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'amour' is French for 'love'
-genie(还行);
2006-8-2
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Thanks. :)
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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je vous en prie. ^_-
-genie(还行);
2006-8-2
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看来法国人奸情多得如同恋情. hehe.打个比喻,这就像中国人名字后面跟个“手纸”两字,XX(手纸),然后解释说“手纸”在日语里是书信的意思,呵呵。
-zheyi(葱花小油饼);
2006-8-2
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of course, everybody's different, but what do you mean that he's not a 'common human being'. my question was what makes him uncommon.
-genie(还行);
2006-8-2
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It's not the appearance, we both have two eyes, one mouth. It's inside.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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What's inside Mr. Jiang, then? Just because he graduated from Qinghua University and got 2 PHD degrees doesn't necessarily mean he is definitely rich inside, does it? Why is that such a big deal?
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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Is it still a big big deal, if the person who killed himself did not graduate from Qinghua University and have 2 PHD degrees? What has attracted you: Mr. Jiang himself, or Qinghua University and his 2 PHD degrees?
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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Answer these questions honestly and sincerely.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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I just don't understand why Qinghua University or Beijing University is still such a big deal in the 21 century when personal capability is more important than schools' names.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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Nothing to do with Qinghua or PHD, it's about eveyone has different understanding of 生命的价值和生命的意义, anyway I am too old to discuss that.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
(#3119035@0)
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Thanks, I guess based on your answer, you might understand that just because 生命的价值和生命的意义 are not the same doesn't mean those who kill themselves are NOT common human beings. By the way,I think we all know that people are different , and 生命的价值和生命的意义 are different.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
{89}
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Yes, people has different understanding of 生命的价值和生命的意义, but most of us are similar, but his uderstanding is totally different, it is that make him uncommon
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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You do NOT have an answer to why he is DIFFERENT and NOT common, do you? Please, just don't try to answer something that you can't, don't try to repeat "he is different, and he is not common" any more. Thanks.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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In the world, only ONE is NOT a common human being, who is LORD JESUS CHRIST.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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LORD is not human being, he is GOD
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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you still haven't answered my question.of course people are different in terms of the personality. you didn't think that i meant people 'look' different, did you? it'd be too ridiculous. so what's 'inside' that makes him different? answer my question if you understand it, or i'll ask in chinese if you prefer.
-genie(还行);
2006-8-2
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As I replay to asker, eveyone has different understanding of 生命的价值和生命的意义, but most of us think 生命的价值和生命的意义 is the same: money, happy family, friends, or these things. But he is totally different, sometimes a physics sicenst is a philosopher in uniform.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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OK, let's end this conversation, and reserve whatever is in our different minds. A reminder that just because he is a physicist doesn't necessarily mean he is DIFFERENT.and just because one is a physicist doesn't necessarily mean he is a philosopher.
Also do not try to label one as "DIFFERENT" just based on the fact that he killed himself while most of us are still alive.
In the world, only ONE is NOT a common human being, who is LORD JESUS CHRIST.
Thanks. Have a nice day.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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And just because one LIKES to talk about philosophy doesn't necessarily mean he IS a philosopher.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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OK, I don't want discuss that anymore, as I said I am too old.If you think he is just the same like you and me, that's OK, it means you have not met a person like him, once you met, you will understand.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
{141}
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Thanks for having this discussion with me, and take care. :)
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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You are totally wrong, LORD is not human being, he is GOD.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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What is a" NOT common" human being? Mr. Jiang is not God, so that he is common, and a human being; in other words, he is NOT a "NOT common" human being. Figure out some basic definitions here. No more comments.THE END
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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Please understand what is human being what is GOD, they live in different world. not a common human being do not mean he is GOD
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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Why can't you answer what is the "NOT COMMON" human being? Does a "NOT COMMON"
human being mean "LORD JESUS CHRIST"? Of course, God is a NOT common human being, cause he is GOD. Gee...
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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No logic at all, I should not answer your question
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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Thanks, just don't try to answer something you can't, and don't label something or someone you don't understand or don't know.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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not a common human being means he is human being but not common.If you think not a common human being is not a human being, that means you don't any logic, all may answers are meaningless to you.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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Sorry but my definition of a "NOT COMMON" human being is NOT a human being, even though you don't think so. I myself believe that human beings are all common, there is no 'NOT COMMON" human being.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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OK, YOU define everything, nothing to disscuss then,
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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Thanks, but (#3119210).
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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and YOU believe human beings are all common, nothing to say
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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Thanks, but #3119210.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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He is not a common human being? What makes him so NOT common? Do you really know him or just THINK you know him?
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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I don't know him, but I know someone like him.
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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The "someone like him" is NOT him, so that you don't know him.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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You don't either, so why are you here?
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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Does this have anything to do with "why we are here"?
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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you don't know him either, so why are you here to discuss
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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Do we have to know him to do the discussion? You are not discussing, but LABELING him as NOT COMMON like a hero, which is what I disagree with, because you don't know him.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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I don't know him at all, so that I don't label him as a hero, a role model or "NOT COMMON". I just think he is a very very ordinary and COMMON human being, who is fragile enough to kill himself under pressure.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
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You don't know him, how can you say think... blah...blah...
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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"Thinking" is different from 'LABELING", isn't it? You say something like you KNOW him, while I only use "think" or "guess", because I don't know him. You are wasting my time, and my last reply to you, thank God.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-2
(#3119210@0)
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Yes, I am totally wasting time here,With a person have no logic at all, anyway, you will undersand someday NOT all huamn being are common
-ding_ding(丁_丁);
2006-8-2
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老蒋绝不是一个普通人,他不为五斗米折腰,不屈服于加拿大的黑暗势力,虽然以死谢人生,但不失刚强,
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-2
(#3119368@0)
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不通不通, 什么都想要什么就什么, 看看没希望了就一死了之.
-freaky(夏觞);
2006-8-2
(#3119496@0)
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这叫宁为玉全,加拿大这里,狗且偷生,美名为从零开始,个别写点软件,的老妇丑妇,更是一副国内暴发户嘴脸,就知道,怎样的人才是真正的潇洒和理想!你看他一死,他老婆还发了一笔.
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-3
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那叫宁为玉碎,不为瓦全. 不过他可不是玉,不过是读书读到牛角尖而且不能面对现实的懦弱的人.
-judy_an(绿腰);
2006-8-3
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别劝了,无非和上次那个帖子一样,把蒋博士拔成了老舍屈原了.
-dalianmao(dalianmao);
2006-8-3
(#3120439@0)
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What a disgrace to 老舍屈原, if LZ does so.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-3
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蒋博士就是不错,用死对抗狗且人生.所以,他一般猫状不刷网.
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-3
(#3121718@0)
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He might not have killed himself, if he occasionally 刷网. 刷网 is one of the ways to relieve psychological pressure.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-3
(#3121978@0)
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拉倒吧,还是那句话:没人拿枪逼他在加拿大苟且偷生,识实物的就应该另奔他乡.他这样的要不就叫以死对抗人生的苟且偷生,和加拿大无关;要不就叫一根筋,在一棵树上吊死.
-dalianmao(dalianmao);
2006-8-4
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It seems that he lives for his FACE, not his HEART, which is the reason that I don't know why some people consistently think of him as a philosopher, cause true philosophers are living for their hearts, not faces.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-4
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老猫,我看你太偏激,人生路很多条,不是谁都愿意和你我一样选择在这加拿大的大树上上吊的,例如我们背井离乡,那就一定有我们自己的原因,我们的党,我们的祖国爱我们吗?也许天下乌鸦一般黑,你可以选择活,但不能蔑视别人选择死.
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-4
(#3124082@0)
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只有一句话:脚上的泡,都是自己走的.可以批判人性,可以批判自我,点儿背不要全怨社会.
-dalianmao(dalianmao);
2006-8-7
(#3127839@0)
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我觉得不懦弱,要是我当过状元,清华教授,会专业级太极拳,有两个博士学位,人生已经足够成功,怎么会舍得去死,光荣还来不及.他真的就是屈原,为了人生理想去死的.
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-3
(#3121713@0)
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How do you know he died for 人生理想? Even his very own parents and wife are not sure.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-3
(#3121982@0)
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"他真的就是屈原,"? I wonder if 屈原 would have killed himself, if he had two children with one of them only about 2 years old.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-3
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博士还是有他自己的神机妙算的,你看,捐了不少了吧,另外,这里单身母亲也不错,福利社会.
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-4
(#3124087@0)
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"你看他一死,他老婆还发了一笔." So this is what Mr. Jiang, the 不为五斗米折腰 guy wants? are you sure? Isn't 发了一笔 against 不为五斗米折腰? Come on.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-3
(#3120451@0)
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他是玉,他老婆是害死玉的瓦.
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-3
(#3121719@0)
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"红颜祸水" theory or what?
-asker(amour);
2006-8-3
(#3121987@0)
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那个女人要为善良正直的博士之死负大责,
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-4
(#3124090@0)
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God bless. :) Oh, brother, you make me laugh.:)
-asker(amour);
2006-8-3
(#3120447@0)
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你居然还能笑出来?人生这问题很严肃滴
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-4
(#3124386@0)
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熬夜了?
-once(chocolate);
2006-8-2
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为何熬夜?四本书阵亡一半,早已睡死.
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-2
(#3119370@0)
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让我叫活你么?
-once(chocolate);
2006-8-4
(#3122994@0)
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那个时候你不在叫我,在叫BED,
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-4
(#3124086@0)
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大哥,文学就是文学,人生就是人生。我在离你们很远的地方,你说的事情也好象离我很远,但还是希望看到你的文字变成纸张。GOOD LUCK!
-somewhere(在途中);
2006-8-4
(#3122609@0)
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文学和人生也有关系.把自己嫁了吗?
-past(闻香识女人);
2006-8-4
(#3122622@0)
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Nice to see you again, sister. Yeah, 把自己嫁了吗? :) Safe and sound.
-asker(amour);
2006-8-4
(#3122710@0)
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没怕死D可以转投阿。
-choice(月光下的凤尾竹);
2006-8-6
(#3127138@0)