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枫下茶话 / 和平之路 / 请教有识之士,美国在韩战中把老金赶回38线以后,已经实现了联合国决议的目的,取得了大胜。之后美国违反联合国决议,侵略38线以北的朝鲜领土,又被中国军队赶回38线以南,使得美国损失惨重,颜面尽失。究竟是谁做的越过38线的决策?之后又没被处罚?
-kanxi(*!);
2022-4-25
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Could you show us the full text of the UN resolution in question?
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2022-4-25
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自己的英语那么好,怎么不会自己查呢?我坐船过来的,又老眼昏花,累死我了。请看链接吧。
-kanxi(*!);
2022-4-25
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Thanks for the link. I read Resolution 82, 83, & 84. What the UN Command did was in line with them. No violations.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2022-4-25
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这是人的正常反应,阅读时都是在寻找让自己分泌多吧安的内容,自己不喜欢的内容会快速忽略掉。仔细看一下82号决议的前几条,让朝鲜军队退回38线以北是82号决议的主要目标。84号决议的内容是用军事手段维持南韩的和平。并没授权侵略北朝鲜。
-kanxi(*!);
2022-4-25
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R.82, II (b), talking about the 38th parallel. However, this is a REQUEST. Requesting the UN commission to observe the withdrawal of North Korean forces to the 38th parallel.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2022-4-25
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重要的是联合国有没有授权美国等用武力侵略北朝鲜,如果你能找出有,我为你骄傲。
-kanxi(*!);
2022-4-25
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纯粹好奇:二战时候,盟国把德国、日本打回本土就完成任务了,打到柏林、扔原子弹属于武力侵略德国、日本么?如果你认为盟国是武力侵略德国、日本,我为你骄傲 LOL
-dummyfrog(Tigerfrog);
2022-4-25
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那会还没联合国。
-kanxi(*!);
2022-4-25
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打没问题,他们讨论的是打到38后继续北上的合理性,或者说是不是师出有名,即能不能继续以联合国的名义进攻。
-harding(HC);
2022-4-25
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当然有合理性。简单地类推,歹徒拿刀砍你,你的正当防卫可不只是招架,可以反过来砍一刀或者开几枪吧
-dummyfrog(Tigerfrog);
2022-4-25
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怎么扯到正当防卫了😊,歹徒拿刀砍你,你可以反抗砍他,一旦歹徒退却或停止侵害,你继续反击甚至砍到歹徒就属于防卫过当。我们上面讨论的是联军打回三八线后继续顶着联合国名义把老金打到鸭绿江边的合理性。
-harding(HC);
2022-4-25
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Nope... If a criminal is attacking with a knife, the police usually shot him directly.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2022-4-25
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如果有人持刀逃跑,警察能不能开枪?
-lifyy(_);
2022-4-25
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we r not talking about samething,right?
-harding(HC);
2022-4-25
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It's a reasonable measure to "restore international peace and security in the area", as specified in Res. 84.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2022-4-25
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在你看来,“in the area”是指南韩,或是整个朝鲜,还是指整个东亚?
-kanxi(*!);
2022-4-25
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I don't know. It's the wording in the resolution.
-sailor(Ocean & Mountain);
2022-4-25
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that is the point, In my understanding, it referred south Korea because it's purpers was to restore the peace, instead of ruining this area.
-kanxi(*!);
2022-4-25
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多国联军把萨达姆赶出科威特后,英美不是绕过联合国入侵了伊拉克,老毛病了,美国人打起来收不住。当然,在朝鲜被揍疼后,它现在也会抬眼看看对象,再决定
-dayafterday(dream);
2022-4-25
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土共打过两次自卫反击战,一次对印,一次对越,也都打过境了。
-dummyfrog(Tigerfrog);
2022-4-25
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因为北朝鲜杀了许多平民,当他们逃回北朝鲜的时候,激起了正义人民的怒火,必须讨回公道正义
-kw23(kw23);
2022-4-25
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我说你别张嘴就来行不行,你缺乏的基础知识和逻辑能力太多,我想帮你也是有心无力,所以有时候就懒得回你了。但是你说什么违反联合国决议等等,这些都是公开资料,你随便上网查一下就有,何必上这来浪费别人时间?
-vega_lee(天津包子-就不改);
2022-4-25
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那就找到联合国授权美国侵略北朝鲜的决议文,让我敬佩你一回,省得你口水多过茶,这要求不过分吧?
-kanxi(*!);
2022-4-25
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