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本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛BREAKING NEWS: Brain tumour cases prompt uni building closure
Thursday May 11th 2006, 8:04 pm
Filed under: Cell Phone Towers
From ABC Online:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200605/s1636462.htm
Thursday, May 11, 2006. 5:26pm (AEST)
Brain tumour cases prompt uni building closure

Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT) has launched a second health and safety investigation in just five years, after seven staff members from the University’s Bourke Street campus were diagnosed with brain tumours.
Five of the cases are not malignant.
The top floors of the Tivoli building are set to be closed.
All the staff involved have worked on those floors of the business faculty for up to 10 years.
Workers on the floors, who include administration staff and lecturers, have been relocated while the investigation takes place.
RMIT spokesman Steve Somogyi says some telecommunications transmitters have raised concerns.
“However they have been there for quite some time, so they were there when the original investigation in 2001 was conducted, so we do not rule in or rule out any conclusions at this stage until the experts who are doing their studies give us their report,” he said.
It is believed there is a mobile phone transmitter on the roof of the building.
Tertiary Education Union state secretary Matt McGowan says at least five of the cases are not malignant, and there is no concern for students at this stage.
“The majority of the staff who’ve been impacted have been there for 10 years, and this has come up after something like 10 years worth of service,” he said.
“So we don’t believe it’s something that would impact on students, who are in and out of the building once every now and then.”更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 高呼:“反对磁悬浮,保卫家园!”Youtube 视频
    • 恕我愚钝,磁悬浮把家园咋的了?
      • 我觉得造价过高,实用率又低,而且听说质量也不过关,什么缝隙过大造成列车不如计划中平稳.鸡肋.
      • 据说磁场强烈对人体有害,德国的标准磁悬浮铁道两边500米之内不能住人,而上海的规划是好像只有几十米隔离带。参加游行的大多是在规划区内刚刚买房不久的。
        • 这个应该是考虑到重点。如果经济急需建磁悬浮,就应该妥善安排两边的移民。将来别人因为磁场影响生病了,找谁去?
        • 很多人一辈子的积蓄放在房子上了 - 至少个沿线居民一个选择 - 给他们市场价的现金买回他们的现住房,给他们搬迁躲避磁场噪音的权力
          • 市场价? 哈哈, 打4折先.
        • 这个应该不是辐射的原因。高速列车经过时应该声势骇人,500米内睡觉怎么也不会安稳。可怜中国最紧张的就是空间。从这点说,中国,特别是北京上海人口稠密的城市应该好好学习研究日本的城市规划,而不是形而上学地照搬德国瑞士法国,玩啥欧陆风情。:)
          • 俺也觉得中国要学到城市规划样板是日本。
            • 小心点,这里有很多痛恨日本人的干活。
    • 那东东,政绩工程,两机场之间堵车的问题解决了就好了。
    • 要真正搞清楚磁悬浮对沿线居民身体健康的影响,再决定上马还是不上。强制好象不妥。哪里都差不多,比如这里的无线中转站的建制,也是强制的,根本不考虑对附近居民身体健康的影响。
    • 也不整个大字报定量论证一下磁悬浮的危害,就这么干喊?
      • 这个同意,要有说服力。不过很多东西的危害现状还不知道,要很多年以后才明白。现阶段耽心到是很多,科学证据不足。
      • 你是学理工科的吗?磁场真的有那么可怕嘛,我看有人还拿些小磁片片做成医疗器材呢
        • 俺相信对身体安全如否和其强度有关系。就像Microwave,手机的强度OK;Cell Tower滴话问题相当严重。
          • 我数学不好,你帮我算算1W的手机天线放耳朵边,相当于距离10kw的tower多远?
            • 自己粗粗算了一下,1w的手机放儿边,算一1cm的话,辐射强度相当于100米外的1mw。我不信世界上有如此powerful的tower
              • 你说什么公示算出的?看看这则新闻。
                本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛BREAKING NEWS: Brain tumour cases prompt uni building closure
                Thursday May 11th 2006, 8:04 pm
                Filed under: Cell Phone Towers
                From ABC Online:
                http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200605/s1636462.htm
                Thursday, May 11, 2006. 5:26pm (AEST)
                Brain tumour cases prompt uni building closure

                Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology (RMIT) has launched a second health and safety investigation in just five years, after seven staff members from the University’s Bourke Street campus were diagnosed with brain tumours.
                Five of the cases are not malignant.
                The top floors of the Tivoli building are set to be closed.
                All the staff involved have worked on those floors of the business faculty for up to 10 years.
                Workers on the floors, who include administration staff and lecturers, have been relocated while the investigation takes place.
                RMIT spokesman Steve Somogyi says some telecommunications transmitters have raised concerns.
                “However they have been there for quite some time, so they were there when the original investigation in 2001 was conducted, so we do not rule in or rule out any conclusions at this stage until the experts who are doing their studies give us their report,” he said.
                It is believed there is a mobile phone transmitter on the roof of the building.
                Tertiary Education Union state secretary Matt McGowan says at least five of the cases are not malignant, and there is no concern for students at this stage.
                “The majority of the staff who’ve been impacted have been there for 10 years, and this has come up after something like 10 years worth of service,” he said.
                “So we don’t believe it’s something that would impact on students, who are in and out of the building once every now and then.”更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                • 这个不新鲜,当年还闹过手机致脑癌的case呢,后来实验证明辐射强度不如听耳机:)
                  • 但愿都是hoax。俺这里还有论文,书呢。
                    http://www.emfacts.com/weblog
                    Research paper
                    http://www.radiationresearch.org/Dr_Hyland_Dec03A.pdf
                    Book
                    http://www.blakelevitt.com/work1.htm
                    • 这么复杂?我知道球面公式,跟半径的平方成正比。距离1000倍,辐射面积增加了1百万倍,能量自然也衰减了1,000,000倍。当然使用激光武器对你定点发射另说:)
                      • 有个问题,现在有微波武器存在么?另外Royal Melbourne Institute of Technology那栋大楼很多人就坐在mast地下上班,长年累月的积累,才有脑瘤生成吧。还有微波对未成年人影响更大。这里有的college禁止在campus内建cell tower。
                    • 这也有一篇形式是论文,虽然质量还不如本科答辩的水平,但作为资料汇总供你参考也能看看。
                      • 有一种说法是因为cell tower有big money在后面,他们有钱资助研究机构,也有钱收买各级政府,所有很多“无害”论文在市场上。另一方面,很多生活在mast周围的人生病也是事实。现在是需要中立的研究机构和研究人员作出令人信服的研究。
                        • 还有20-30年后我们才真的知道无线无害,因为那时候统计数据该有了。谁在说谎也会真相大白。
                          • 我记得无线电有一百多年历史了,当然比气功的历史还是短很多:)
                            • so? Microwave在手机,无线网络的应用普及是近几年才开始的,对人类有害如否现在不能定论。你以为俺真是气功会长啊。:-)
                        • 如果相信设备呢,就买个高斯计(对付磁悬浮的)和辐射计啥的(对付微波炉手机电脑...)。如果相信普通电磁学呢,辐射强度大概随距离的增加呈指数衰减,然后查一下发射功率量一下距离,自己也能估算。:)
                          • 俺们成年人脑袋比较抗磁,孩子们难说了。现在很多tower因为居民反对,都建到mall,school边上,的确不让人放心。你介绍的那篇文章以美国ICNIRP为根据,居不知人家会按新发现随时修改安全标准的。
                            俺参加过celltower听证会,没一个人敢说是安全的(包括申请tower的公司)!

                            将来或许有一天,来个撤cell tower运动,谁知道呢。
      • 再怎么论证,换了我也不会去住
        • 俺也不去:) 不过这和买房子旁边不能有高压线不能有....的风水说差不多
          • 这个好象还不能这么肯定。真的需要砖家研究,试验。而且时间跨度也要足够地长。
            • 当年挂科协下的气功协会,也都这么说
              • 俺是气功协会会长 :-)
    • 稠密的居民区本来就不应该建这种玩意.现在知道民主的好处了吧?
      • 民主当然是好东东,但不是象你们那样诉求的。:-)
      • 哈哈哈,民主了就建不了了,对国家城市发展不利。