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提个醒：给父母移民正在处理当中想申请OHIP的朋友／同学们：

linda355(信天游)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛按照安省卫生厅的规定，可以申请OHIP的有几种人,见LINK： Am I eligible for Ontario Health Insurance?

很多人认为第二条就包括在加拿大境内正在等待移民结果的父母 "you have submitted an application for permanent residence IN CANADA, and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence IN CANADA."实际上不是.

按照移民法，这里指的是递交到加拿大境内的 IN CANADA 申请类别，比如：境内配偶／同居配偶；人道类别；工作签证；学生签证；难民等等，简单说就是申请递交到 CASE PROCESSING CENTRE IN VEGREVILLE， ALBERTA (CPC-V)的;而通常所说的父母担保类别是递交到 MISSISSAUGA 的 CASE PROCESSING CENTRE (CPC-M)的。

还有个区别是：CPC－M是审理的担保人的资格，所以通过信（APPROVAL LETTER）也是担保人的名字；而CPC－V审理的是真正的移民申请人，APPROVAL LETTER 也是移民申请人的名字 (通常是没有担保人的） 。

再有，这类境内申请(尤其是境内配偶／同居配偶类别／人道类别／临时居住许可证类别) 通常是先做体检的，初步审理通过后，CPC－V会有专门的信说他们可以已经通过体检，安省健康厅才会凭这封信给他们 OHIP的COVERAGE。

也就是说我们通常的父母担保类别实际上是不合格 OHIP 的。这类申请大多是在境外的VISA POST处理的。至于有的朋友申请到了，很可能是在GTA以外的小城镇，那里移民申请人不多，健康厅的工作人员疏忽就给了。在GTA因为这种人太多，很难蒙混过去的。

但是去健康厅试一下也没有什么，不给就算了,只是被拒后不要失望，人家是有理可依的。其他省份的规定不清楚.

GOOD LUCK。更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 相约北美 / 探亲团聚 / 提个醒：给父母移民正在处理当中想申请OHIP的朋友／同学们： -linda355(信天游); 2011-3-7 {1415} (#6548699@0)
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛按照安省卫生厅的规定，可以申请OHIP的有几种人,见LINK： Am I eligible for Ontario Health Insurance?

    很多人认为第二条就包括在加拿大境内正在等待移民结果的父母 "you have submitted an application for permanent residence IN CANADA, and Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence IN CANADA."实际上不是.

    按照移民法，这里指的是递交到加拿大境内的 IN CANADA 申请类别，比如：境内配偶／同居配偶；人道类别；工作签证；学生签证；难民等等，简单说就是申请递交到 CASE PROCESSING CENTRE IN VEGREVILLE， ALBERTA (CPC-V)的;而通常所说的父母担保类别是递交到 MISSISSAUGA 的 CASE PROCESSING CENTRE (CPC-M)的。

    还有个区别是：CPC－M是审理的担保人的资格，所以通过信（APPROVAL LETTER）也是担保人的名字；而CPC－V审理的是真正的移民申请人，APPROVAL LETTER 也是移民申请人的名字 (通常是没有担保人的） 。

    再有，这类境内申请(尤其是境内配偶／同居配偶类别／人道类别／临时居住许可证类别) 通常是先做体检的，初步审理通过后，CPC－V会有专门的信说他们可以已经通过体检，安省健康厅才会凭这封信给他们 OHIP的COVERAGE。

    也就是说我们通常的父母担保类别实际上是不合格 OHIP 的。这类申请大多是在境外的VISA POST处理的。至于有的朋友申请到了，很可能是在GTA以外的小城镇，那里移民申请人不多，健康厅的工作人员疏忽就给了。在GTA因为这种人太多，很难蒙混过去的。

    但是去健康厅试一下也没有什么，不给就算了,只是被拒后不要失望，人家是有理可依的。其他省份的规定不清楚.

    GOOD LUCK。更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • This is the typical mislead, and I read many like this. -carmay(CarMay); 2011-3-7 {947} (#6548746@0)
      Let me make it clear again. For the sponsored immigration applications (no matter where the application is submitted.), if the applicant has been in Ontario, Canada for 3 months, then he/she is eligible for OHIP, which is confirmed by OHIP. The only argument here (for my case, between the OHIP and me) is the confirmation of the immigration application. OHIP says it should be a confirmation letter from CIC. But the CIC does not agree. (I got the CIC response that CIC in
      Beijing does not send such confirmation for sponsored Parents immigration applicationsw) And the most important is that the LAW does not require the confirmation letter, only the confirmation. And I think for the sponsored immigration applications, as long as the sponsorship is approved, then it is confirmed by CIC. However, the person I sponsored is not in Canada yet, so OHIP can not assess my case. (Or OHIP is not willing to process my case, that is why I am here.)
      • 那么再往LINK下面看：＂Tourists, transients or visitors are NOT eligible for OHIP coverage.＂在这里探亲的父母难道不是VISITOR（S）？ Anyway, give it a try and good luck. -linda355(信天游); 2011-3-7 (#6548806@0)
        • All sponsored persons are visitor in Canada BEFORE the immigration application is approved. Can you tell me how to be a un-visitor?! -carmay(CarMay); 2011-3-8 (#6549020@0)
          • you are right, so as VISITORS they are NOT eligible. -linda355(信天游); 2011-3-8 (#6549152@0)
            • Then what does the "immigration applicants" mean in the "Regulation 552"? (What is the point to mention the immigration status in the regulation?!, such as confirmation by CIC ....) -carmay(CarMay); 2011-3-8 (#6549307@0)
            • Tell me what it is talking about by the Subsection of Regulation 552?! -carmay(CarMay); 2011-3-8 {390} (#6549315@0)
              Subsection 5. Being a person who has submitted an application for permanent residence in Canada to the proper federal government authority, even if the application has not yet been approved, as long as Citizenship and Immigration Canada has confirmed that the person meets the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residency in Canada, and the application has not yet been denied.
              • "...as long as CIC has confirmed that the person meets the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residency in Canada..." is the key point. -linda355(信天游); 2011-3-8 {509} (#6549434@0)
                Only CPC-V confirms a person has been found eligible to apply for PR IN CANADA; CPC-M only confirms a person has been found eligible to SPONSOR someone under family class. You can see this from Mississauga's approval letter, that's Y this letter is sent to sponsor(s) only, not to applicants - their parent(s).

                But you are trying to do a good thing for lots of people here and no harm even refused. So give it a try, but don't be disappointed. this is my only purpose to post this here.

                Good luck.
        • 确实不是，他们是Temporary residents.看你父母的签证 -vega_lee(天津包子-就不改); 2011-3-8 (#6549039@0)
    • "permanent residence in Canada" -wince(carpe diem); 2011-3-7 (#6548834@0)
    • 我本不愿再讨论下去, 可是,这关系到同胞们的切身利益, 我就给你普及点基本法律常识: “平等权利” 是法律的基本原则之一. “REGULATION 552” 是安省的法律, 它不可能以不同的方式 -carmay(CarMay); 2011-3-8 {346} (#6549075@0)
      我本不愿再讨论下去, 可是,这关系到同胞们的切身利益, 我就给你普及点基本法律常识: “平等权利” 是法律的基本原则之一. “REGULATION 552” 是安省的法律, 它不可能以不同的方式(有些人-INLAND可以有OHIP, 另外一些人-OUTLAND没有)对待同类人”immigrants” . 这是明显地侵犯人权! 因此, OHIP 从来也没有根据INLAND/OUTLAND 去拒绝. (他们若敢, 我打他们到最高法院!!!!!)
      • 作为老杜,支持你们从另一个角度和政府部门搞清楚! -dulululu(dulululu); 2011-3-8 (#6549100@0)
      • 平等从来都是相对的。 -linda355(信天游); 2011-3-8 (#6549210@0)
        • 你不去争取，就肯定没有。 -dulululu(dulululu); 2011-3-8 (#6549245@0)
        • 这是抬扛,不是讨论! -carmay(CarMay); 2011-3-8 (#6549281@0)

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