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有了O8这个反面典型,米国人突然发现布什的好处. 在今年棒球总决赛中,布什受到全场的欢呼.

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  • 枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / “The (president) office is far more important than its occupants”, 这是布什总统在解释他为什么不反击O8对他无休止的攻击时说的话. 因为总统间的口舌之争会伤害总统一职的权威. 只此一点布什和O8高下已分.
    • 最近, 布什的名字又频频被提起.起因是O8内政外事皆一团糟,不得不向布什总统学习.内政中,O8也要靠Bush’s tax cut,外事上学布什搞”Surge”. 左派们高谈阔论时口如悬河,一到现实中则无一计可用.O8的顾问们纷纷辞职,去象牙塔中去继续高谈阔论以掩盖他们的无能.
    • 布什上台既面对Hightech bubble burst, 其危机度甚于金融危机.后又解决了Enron, Tyco等政券业的重大危机.不但恢复了米国政券业的信用,更让米国经济进入了一个稳定发展的轨道,米国的失业率屡创新低.其间布什没有说一句将责任推给前任的话.古之贤臣,不过如此.
      • 扯淡。这个花花公子上台就骂前任,开创了美国总统责怪前任的时间还是次数纪录。半年把克林顿积攒的财政收入花光开始赤字,然后911救了这个弱智,于是义无反顾地反恐反恐反恐,别的什么都不理不睬。
    • 面对911之袭, 布什借阿富汗反对派之兵,灭塔里班逐本拉登.当时,各国以为米国如前苏联身陷阿富汗而无力他顾,罪恶轴心等蠢蠢欲动. 布什提一偏师,美第三师, 大破百万伊军,克巴格达,擒萨达母,群小震僳. 世之良将,又何逞多让矣.
    • 布什受命于危难之际内修政事,外御强敌,自911后,再无一件对米国的攻击得逞.虽黄口乳子,无用儒生对其百般辱骂.为维护总统之尊严, 布什忍辱负重.待八年任满,挂冠而去.事事非非,一笑置之,真丈夫也.
      • 休息会儿...您说得都是事实. 不过接着的这些个中文马屁怎么翻译,布什他听得懂吗? True man...?
        • 真丈夫的E文马屁可能是"real man".看他的采访你就会感觉到布什对这些马屁不感兴趣,他坚信历史会给他公正的评价.
    • 您关于Bush和Palin的评论,充分体现了这里的言论自由。
      • "布什提一偏师,美第三师, 大破百万伊军,克巴格达,擒萨达母,..." 为无聊的网友们提供如此高质量的humor, 您辛苦了.
        • 这些都是事实,尽管左派们不愿相信.伊战前,米军的计划是四师为正,三师为奇,北南夹击.战前土耳其决定不让米军借道.米军只好用船运送四师到南部.就在全球都以为四师到位后米军才会进攻时,米三师长驱直入,取下巴格达.奇兵成了正兵.
          布什的果断和大胆让米军和伊拉克人的伤亡降到了最少.
          • 同学,那个是老布什吧。你要说天下布什都是一家,那咱也没话说。
            • not to involve in the argument, but I think it is actually W. not his father
              • 哦,对,入侵伊拉克这事是他。他爸是第一次伊拉克战争时候的事。
            • never heard the "digital 4th infantry"? How can people just badmouth a person without knowing what he has done?
              • 那个关他屁事?他最多是在后面签个字什么的。你怎么不提他还说伊拉克有大规模杀伤武器呢? 入侵就是入侵,啥了伊拉克十万人,把经济搞得一团糟,你喜欢供着就供着呗。
                • 我记得我以前转贴过一个链接,伊拉克的经济,2007年的文章,没有一团糟啊!好像这里的一个左派前几个月还说过200万,新华社喉舌说是300万寡妇,现在怎么又变成10万了?
                  • 10万人300万寡妇,啧啧,每人30个。。。。
                    • 眼光很给力,或是色心很给力.
                  • 这里有一个人做的统计。看起来那里环境没变好啊。
                    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Iraq War Facts, Results & Statistics at October 30, 2010
                    4,430 US Soldiers Killed, 31,929 Seriously Wounded

                    By Deborah White

                    For your quick reading, I've listed key statistics about the Iraq War and occupation, taken primarily from data analyzed by various think tanks, including The Brookings Institution's Iraq Index, and from mainstream media sources. Data is presented as of October 30, 2010, except as indicated.
                    U.S. SPENDING IN IRAQ

                    Spent & Approved War-Spending -
                    About $900 billion of US taxpayers' funds spent or approved for spending through October 2010.

                    Lost & Unaccounted for in Iraq - $9 billion of US taxpayers' money and $549.7 milion in spare parts shipped in 2004 to US contractors. Also, per ABC News, 190,000 guns, including 110,000 AK-47 rifles.

                    Missing - $1 billion in tractor trailers, tank recovery vehicles, machine guns, rocket-propelled grenades and other equipment and services provided to the Iraqi security forces. (Per CBS News on Dec 6, 2007.)

                    Mismanaged & Wasted in Iraq - $10 billion, per Feb 2007 Congressional hearings

                    Halliburton Overcharges Classified by the Pentagon as Unreasonable and Unsupported - $1.4 billion

                    Amount paid to KBR, a former Halliburton division, to supply U.S. military in Iraq with food, fuel, housing and other items - $20 billion

                    Portion of the $20 billion paid to KBR that Pentagon auditors deem "questionable or supportable" - $3.2 billion

                    U.S. 2009 Monthly Spending in Iraq - $7.3 billion as of Oct 2009

                    U.S. 2008 Monthly Spending in Iraq - $12 billion

                    U.S. Spending per Second - $5,000 in 2008 (per Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on May 5, 2008)

                    Cost of deploying one U.S. soldier for one year in Iraq - $390,000 (Congressional Research Service)

                    TROOPS IN IRAQ

                    Troops in Iraq - Total 48,000 U.S. troops. All other nations have withdrawn their troops.

                    U.S. Troop Casualties - 4,430 US troops; 98% male. 91% non-officers; 82% active duty, 11% National Guard; 74% Caucasian, 9% African-American, 11% Latino. 19% killed by non-hostile causes. 54% of US casualties were under 25 years old. 72% were from the US Army

                    Non-U.S. Troop Casualties - Total 316, with 179 from the UK

                    US Troops Wounded - 31,929, 20% of which are serious brain or spinal injuries. (Total excludes psychological injuries.)

                    US Troops with Serious Mental Health Problems - 30% of US troops develop serious mental health problems within 3 to 4 months of returning home

                    US Military Helicopters Downed in Iraq - 75 total, at least 36 by enemy fire

                    IRAQI TROOPS, CIVILIANS & OTHERS IN IRAQ

                    Private Contractors in Iraq, Working in Support of US Army Troops - More than 180,000 in August 2007, per The Nation/LA Times.

                    Journalists killed - 144, 97 by murder and 47 by acts of war

                    Journalists killed by US Forces - 14

                    Iraqi Police and Soldiers Killed - 9,765

                    Iraqi Civilians Killed, Estimated - On October 22, 2010, ABC News reported "a secret U.S. government tally that puts the Iraqi (civilian) death toll over 100,000," information that was included in more than 400,000 military documents released by Wikileaks.com.

                    A UN issued report dated Sept 20, 2006 stating that Iraqi civilian casualties have been significantly under-reported. Casualties are reported at 50,000 to over 100,000, but may be much higher. Some informed estimates place Iraqi civilian casualities at over 600,000.

                    Iraqi Insurgents Killed, Roughly Estimated - 55,000

                    Non-Iraqi Contractors and Civilian Workers Killed - 572

                    Non-Iraqi Kidnapped - 306, including 57 killed, 147 released, 4 escaped, 6 rescued and 89 status unknown.

                    Daily Insurgent Attacks, Feb 2004 - 14

                    Daily Insurgent Attacks, July 2005 - 70

                    Daily Insurgent Attacks, May 2007 - 163

                    Estimated Insurgency Strength, Nov 2003 - 15,000

                    Estimated Insurgency Strength, Oct 2006 - 20,000 - 30,000

                    Estimated Insurgency Strength, June 2007 - 70,000

                    QUALITY OF LIFE INDICATORS

                    Iraqis Displaced Inside Iraq, by Iraq War, as of May 2007 - 2,255,000

                    Iraqi Refugees in Syria & Jordan - 2.1 million to 2.25 million

                    Iraqi Unemployment Rate - 27 to 60%, where curfew not in effect

                    Consumer Price Inflation in 2006 - 50%

                    Iraqi Children Suffering from Chronic Malnutrition - 28% in June 2007 (Per CNN.com, July 30, 2007)

                    Percent of professionals who have left Iraq since 2003 - 40%

                    Iraqi Physicians Before 2003 Invasion - 34,000

                    Iraqi Physicians Who Have Left Iraq Since 2005 Invasion - 12,000

                    Iraqi Physicians Murdered Since 2003 Invasion - 2,000

                    Average Daily Hours Iraqi Homes Have Electricity - 1 to 2 hours, per Ryan Crocker, U.S. Ambassador to Iraq (Per Los Angeles Times, July 27, 2007)

                    Average Daily Hours Iraqi Homes Have Electricity - 10.9 in May 2007

                    Average Daily Hours Baghdad Homes Have Electricity - 5.6 in May 2007

                    Pre-War Daily Hours Baghdad Homes Have Electricity - 16 to 24

                    Number of Iraqi Homes Connected to Sewer Systems - 37%

                    Iraqis without access to adequate water supplies - 70% (Per CNN.com, July 30, 2007)

                    Water Treatment Plants Rehabilitated - 22%

                    RESULTS OF POLL Taken in Iraq in August 2005 by the British Ministry of Defense (Source: Brookings Institute)

                    Iraqis "strongly opposed to presence of coalition troops - 82%

                    Iraqis who believe Coalition forces are responsible for any improvement in security - less than 1%

                    Iraqis who feel less ecure because of the occupation - 67%

                    Iraqis who do not have confidence in multi-national forces - 72%更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
                • 那10万人是怎么回事,51.ca曾经有一篇很详细的说明,要不要我帮你找出来?
                  • 肉联人对51.ca这种无聊小站不屑一顾,有种你就转贴个过来。
                    • 简单搜索了一下,没找到,算了,这几天忙着换工作,没时间和这些左左门缠斗。左左门很奇怪,他们很希望美军多杀平民,杀得越多越他们越高兴,51那篇文章其实就是用数据说明了一下伊拉克平民伤亡主要由中国人民的老朋友--反美武装 造成的
                      • Good luck. 生活工作很重要.和左派斗嘴只是娱乐调剂.
                  • wiki 和 wikileak 上的数据。十万是平民伤亡最低最低的估计,还不包括军人。各个机构统计出入极大,从十万到100万都有。还没有提难民人数呢。
                • 对头,关他屁事,其实是裆中央下的大棋。
    • "Decion points" , help better understand bush's decision.
      • I am intersted in reading it, if I can find one for free for my kindle.
    • 有了O8这个反面典型,米国人突然发现布什的好处. 在今年棒球总决赛中,布什受到全场的欢呼.
      • Because it was the Rangers. And the Bushes used to own the team. You think he would ever dare to show up at Giants' home court?
        • interesting argument. You might have a point here. However, if you are familiar with professional sports, you will know owners are often hated by the fans. People in the court pays their respect to the father & son is because they are really americans.
    • 你这种人,看看你的多年的帖子就知道了,脑子里除了死忠保守党,不能接受任何其它观点。你将所有一切一点一滴(甚至不是政治事件)都扯到为保守党歌功颂德上面。
      • 您要是有观点,俺就死忠您。
    • 虽然Rolia的左派们骂起布什来如有臭屁千种,但都胸无点墨.对偶列出的事实无言可辩, 只能进行人身公鸡.可叹.
      • Thanks dude. You let know another Bush.
        • Welcome. The truth should be somewhere in between. Unfortunately the left could not conduct any convincing arguments. So it is difficult to exchange ideas. A few years after, the lefties in Rolia have not improved much. Sigh..