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实在是看不下去了. 我真的难以理解是什么样的人对被描述为是"DOG",而不以为是歧视和贬义的? 这些人到底是政治素质好,英语好,还是就是FORD 描述的东方狗? Obama: Critics 'talk about me like a dog'

hotmoon(梵高的耳朵)
本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Obama: Critics 'talk about me like a dog'
By Bridget Johnson - 09/06/10 04:38 PM ET

President Obama strayed from his prepared remarks at a Labor Day rally to accuse his opponents of talking about him "like a dog."

Obama was in Milwaukee to speak at the Milwaukee Laborfest, attended by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood and AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka. He used the speech to promote his $50 billion infrastructure plan and to criticize Republicans ahead of crucial midterm elections.

"Some powerful interests who had been dominating the agenda in Washington for a very long time and they're not always happy with me. They talk about me like a dog. That's not in my prepared remarks, but it's true," he told the union crowd.

The president isn't known to stray off prepared remarks and also took a more aggressive tone in the speech.

"They’re betting that between now and November, you’ll come down with a case of amnesia," Obama said. "They think you’ll forget what their agenda did to this country. They think you’ll just believe that they’ve changed. These are the folks whose policies helped devastate our middle class and drive our economy into a ditch. And now they’re asking you for the keys back."

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  • 枫下茶话 / 政治经济 / 实在是看不下去了. 我真的难以理解是什么样的人对被描述为是"DOG",而不以为是歧视和贬义的? 这些人到底是政治素质好,英语好,还是就是FORD 描述的东方狗? Obama: Critics 'talk about me like a dog' -hotmoon(梵高的耳朵); 2010-10-22 {1502} (#6332185@0)
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛Obama: Critics 'talk about me like a dog'
    By Bridget Johnson - 09/06/10 04:38 PM ET

    President Obama strayed from his prepared remarks at a Labor Day rally to accuse his opponents of talking about him "like a dog."

    Obama was in Milwaukee to speak at the Milwaukee Laborfest, attended by Labor Secretary Hilda Solis, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood and AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka. He used the speech to promote his $50 billion infrastructure plan and to criticize Republicans ahead of crucial midterm elections.

    "Some powerful interests who had been dominating the agenda in Washington for a very long time and they're not always happy with me. They talk about me like a dog. That's not in my prepared remarks, but it's true," he told the union crowd.

    The president isn't known to stray off prepared remarks and also took a more aggressive tone in the speech.

    "They’re betting that between now and November, you’ll come down with a case of amnesia," Obama said. "They think you’ll forget what their agenda did to this country. They think you’ll just believe that they’ve changed. These are the folks whose policies helped devastate our middle class and drive our economy into a ditch. And now they’re asking you for the keys back."

    Source:
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/117321-obama-critics-talk-about-me-like-a-dog
    The contents of this site are © 2010 Capitol Hill Publishing Corp., a subsidiary of News Communications, Inc.更多精彩文章及讨论，请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • Please do not always think like a dog. -hipacific(crystalblue); 2010-10-22 (#6332213@0)
      • 你太敏感了.FORD没说你,他说的是Oriental people,你不是. -hotmoon(梵高的耳朵); 2010-10-22 (#6332229@0)
        • I do not think Ford's remarks is respectable. But politics is a game of votes in exchange of interestes. -hipacific(crystalblue); 2010-10-22 {121} (#6332244@0)
          Not talking you like a dog is not enough to exchange the money and rights they abused, to most of normal canadian people.
          • "犹太民族是北美洲这块土地上最成功的少数民族，华人在北美可以在各方面以犹太人为师，看看犹太人如何零容忍有反犹倾向的言论。福特先生敢用同样的语气调侃一下犹太人吗？咱们真得学着点呐。" -visitor2.0(visitor2.0); 10.19 08:38 (#6325782@0) reply more -hotmoon(梵高的耳朵); 2010-10-22 (#6332257@0)
            • First please learn from Indians. -hipacific(crystalblue); 2010-10-22 (#6332274@0)
              • Indians 有什么错?人家的土地,地大物博,生活的自由又自然,占了别人的家院,硬要别人进入现代工业文明,弄的别人适应不了,现在是又酗酒又吸毒,犯有率也高. 让白人养着,THEY　ＤＥＳＥＲＶＥ　ＩＴ． -hotmoon(梵高的耳朵); 2010-10-23 (#6332292@0)
            • 你要问他们，福特会不会说：犹太人象DOG一样地挣钱？ -statstar(tiger); 2010-10-23 (#6332833@0)
    • Actually, in his original comments "oriental" was probably more inappropriate than "dog". At the end of day, 'work like a dog' is an existing idiom in English and not uncommon in informal conversations. But, "oriental" can be a bit offensive. -barbarian(粗人); 2010-10-23 (#6332313@0)
      • FORD的言论明显无疑是个RACIST. 错了就是错了,没错他道什么歉. 但是多市也是管理的一踏糊涂.选FORD也是无奈,但是搞政治的就要学会利用自己手里的筹码,现在是FORD送给你手上一张好牌,讨价还价,给华人族裔多争取条件,还在这分析来分析去的,都变成HOT DOG了. -hotmoon(梵高的耳朵); 2010-10-23 (#6332325@0)
        • Just wanted to point out that when people puts a lot of focus on 'dog' , actually, in that sentence the word 'oriental' is more of an issue than 'dog'. -barbarian(粗人); 2010-10-23 (#6332531@0)
    • 如何鉴别狗和人：朝狗扔块骨头，狗就不叫了；朝人扔块骨头，人会捡块砖头砸回去 -manniangpai(慢两拍); 2010-10-23 (#6332361@0)
      • 精辟. -hotmoon(梵高的耳朵); 2010-10-23 (#6332459@0)
      • 一看就知道，你对狗知而不够：你向狗砸一块石头，狗先是一躲，一闪身，然后就去追那块石头，它还以为是一块骨头呢。人呢，也闪，跑了。等狗醒过来时，晚啦，哈哈。我们小时后就是这么逗狗的。 -statstar(tiger); 2010-10-23 (#6332816@0)
      • 人不如狗 -mikesmith(老猫); 2010-10-23 (#6333039@0)
    • 在英文中并不是所有和dog有关的句子都是好话，就像不是所有和牛有关的词在中文中都是好话一样。work like dog字典里说的很清楚，就是work very hard的意思。有的地方还有work like dog day 用以鼓励努力工作。 -tzm_oasis(绿洲); 2010-10-23 (#6332396@0)
    • 你难道就不奇怪，为什么英文媒体只说oriental，而不提dog。难道你觉得你的英文水平比英文媒体水平高? -tzm_oasis(绿洲); 2010-10-23 (#6332404@0)
      • 美国总统的英文也够烂的.被人象DOG一样的议论,他应该高兴,怎么那么DEFENSIVE?看来还是华人有智慧,有学问,心胸宽阔,抱着字典被人叫DOG没问题. -hotmoon(梵高的耳朵); 2010-10-23 (#6332454@0)
        • 在英文中并不是所有和dog有关的句子都是好话，就像不是所有和牛有关的词在中文中都是好话一样 -tzm_oasis(绿洲); 2010-10-23 (#6332479@0)
      • nod, nod... 'oriental' is more of an issue than 'dog' in that sentence. -barbarian(粗人); 2010-10-23 (#6332533@0)
    • 不过对那些具有众生平等，生死轮回思想的人就无所谓了，DOG还算是不错的。 -statstar(tiger); 2010-10-23 (#6332772@0)
    • 我不懂政治，不过我以为民主政治中的选举应该有这样一个特点：群体共同选举的公共目标是整个群体利益的最大化。子群体（子集合）个人投票者的意义在于：不仅是体现与总体有关的利益问题（比如税率），更重要的是要通过公众所能接受的语言和表达方式，表明你支持谁。 -statstar(tiger); 2010-10-23 {564} (#6332897@0)
      这个人必须能理解你的愿望，并且在赢选后为你的愿望所要达到的利益目标服务，也即你的子群体的利益目标服务，虽然你的利益目标是隐含的，并且在公选时在公众面前必须隐含。这是一个投票收益问题：个人投票利益的最优化。如果整天是围着这个税那个税那显然是不够的，除非你是用整体利益问题来拉选票，以便掩盖自己的选举目标。比如说那个人是亲华的，他有什么样的利税目标，在不至于你不能容忍他的利税观点的情况下，那你就闭着眼睛投他就好了。如果没有这样的人，那就闭住眼睛投华人，除非他是毒派，分裂华人。注意，这不是种族问题，是种族利益问题。没有这些简单，起码的考量，投票都是瞎嚷嚷，好玩而已。
      • 玩弯弯绕呢吧？睡前灌水后再和稀泥，反正别想捛清什么意思。 -earthcorner(outlier); 2010-10-23 (#6333027@0)

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