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90% Bonus Tax? Way to Destroy Our Economy

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛90% Bonus Tax? Way to Destroy Our Economy

Posted Mar 20, 2009 11:04am EDT by Henry Blodget in Media, Newsmakers, Banking
Related: AIG, ^DJI, ^GSPC, C, BAC, GM
From The Business Insider, March 20, 2009:

The frantic passage of the Populist Rage Tax was a new low in the US government's response to this crisis. It shows just how likely we are to doom ourselves to a decade or more of misery--by choking our markets, closing our borders, turning our banks into tools of social policy, and wrecking what's left of our economy.

In case you've been too outraged by AIG (justifiably) to notice what happened, here's a recap:

If the "TARP bonus" bill the House passed today becomes law, any of the hundreds of thousands of people who work for Citigroup, Bank of America, AIG, and nine other major US corporations will have to fork over 90 cents of every bonus dollar that puts their household income over $250,000.

That's household income, not individual income. If you're married and filing singly, you'll have to surrender anything over $125,000. Indefinitely.

Is $250,000 per household a lot of money? Sure. But it's not a lot of money for two moderately successful corporate executives. Or a corporate secretary married to a lawyer. (If you're a $40,000 a year telemarketer at a TARP company married to a $210,000 lawyer, any bonus will be taxed). So this tax will be felt by a lot more than the handful of execs at AIG and Merrill who ran off with several million dollars apiece.

But that's not the really distressing part. The really distressing part is what this tax will do to the corporations that we now own and are supposedly trying to save.

(Remember? That's the reason we bailed Citigroup, AIG, GM, and the rest of them out--to save them. Because we convinced ourselves that civilization would end if we didn't.)

Thanks to our stupidity bailouts, we now own major stakes in these firms--at mind-boggling expense. So it's not clear why we want to destroy them. But that's what we seem determined to do.

Believe it or not, hidden inside these companies are thousands of decent, competent people whose households bring in more than $250,000 a year. Many of these folks had NOTHING to do with the gambling addiction that bankrupted their firms. Many of them still have a choice where to work. And now that they've learned that their family's pay will be capped at $250,000 indefinitely, many of them will quickly decide that now is a good time to pursue their careers elsewhere. (That is, unless their firm takes the easy and obvious step of just paying them a fatter salary, which just renders the whole thing a farce.)

Will everyone leave these firms? No. The folks whose households don't have the education, desire, ambition, skill, or time to make more than $250,000 a year won't. But a lot of the rest will. And however little our massive investments in these companies are worth now, they will soon be worth a lot less.

The real lesson here, unfortunately, is that it's a disaster for the government to run private companies. We used to understand that. But ever since we started telling ourselves that we had to save bankrupt institutions by taking them over and pretending not to "nationalize" them, we have apparently forgotten.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / 做人不能太贪而无德, 最后弄得天怨人怒地. 这个如何? 效率还蛮高的. 美国众议院周四通过了一项法案,内容是对接受了政府援助资金的公司高管奖金实施“惩罚税”。
    美国东部时间3月19日14:57(北京时间3月20日2:57)消息,美国众议院周四通过了一项
    法案,内容是对接受了政府援助资金的公司高管奖金实施“惩罚税”。

      以民主党议员为主导的众议院刚刚宣布通过了这项法案,投票结果为328票赞成、
    93票反对。众议院议长、加利福尼亚州民主党议员南希·佩洛西(Nancy Pelosi)称:“
    我们希望收回资金,而且希望现在就能为纳税人收回资金。”

      根据这项法案,凡是已经接受了50亿美元以上政府援助资金的公司,其家庭收入高
    于25万美元的员工奖金将需支付高达90%的税。
    • what is the definition of family income here? Gross income or AGI?
      The tax would need to be paid by any employee or former employee whose family income exceeds $250,000 ($125,000 for married recipients filing separately).
    • 90% Bonus Tax? Way to Destroy Our Economy
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛90% Bonus Tax? Way to Destroy Our Economy

      Posted Mar 20, 2009 11:04am EDT by Henry Blodget in Media, Newsmakers, Banking
      Related: AIG, ^DJI, ^GSPC, C, BAC, GM
      From The Business Insider, March 20, 2009:

      The frantic passage of the Populist Rage Tax was a new low in the US government's response to this crisis. It shows just how likely we are to doom ourselves to a decade or more of misery--by choking our markets, closing our borders, turning our banks into tools of social policy, and wrecking what's left of our economy.

      In case you've been too outraged by AIG (justifiably) to notice what happened, here's a recap:

      If the "TARP bonus" bill the House passed today becomes law, any of the hundreds of thousands of people who work for Citigroup, Bank of America, AIG, and nine other major US corporations will have to fork over 90 cents of every bonus dollar that puts their household income over $250,000.

      That's household income, not individual income. If you're married and filing singly, you'll have to surrender anything over $125,000. Indefinitely.

      Is $250,000 per household a lot of money? Sure. But it's not a lot of money for two moderately successful corporate executives. Or a corporate secretary married to a lawyer. (If you're a $40,000 a year telemarketer at a TARP company married to a $210,000 lawyer, any bonus will be taxed). So this tax will be felt by a lot more than the handful of execs at AIG and Merrill who ran off with several million dollars apiece.

      But that's not the really distressing part. The really distressing part is what this tax will do to the corporations that we now own and are supposedly trying to save.

      (Remember? That's the reason we bailed Citigroup, AIG, GM, and the rest of them out--to save them. Because we convinced ourselves that civilization would end if we didn't.)

      Thanks to our stupidity bailouts, we now own major stakes in these firms--at mind-boggling expense. So it's not clear why we want to destroy them. But that's what we seem determined to do.

      Believe it or not, hidden inside these companies are thousands of decent, competent people whose households bring in more than $250,000 a year. Many of these folks had NOTHING to do with the gambling addiction that bankrupted their firms. Many of them still have a choice where to work. And now that they've learned that their family's pay will be capped at $250,000 indefinitely, many of them will quickly decide that now is a good time to pursue their careers elsewhere. (That is, unless their firm takes the easy and obvious step of just paying them a fatter salary, which just renders the whole thing a farce.)

      Will everyone leave these firms? No. The folks whose households don't have the education, desire, ambition, skill, or time to make more than $250,000 a year won't. But a lot of the rest will. And however little our massive investments in these companies are worth now, they will soon be worth a lot less.

      The real lesson here, unfortunately, is that it's a disaster for the government to run private companies. We used to understand that. But ever since we started telling ourselves that we had to save bankrupt institutions by taking them over and pretending not to "nationalize" them, we have apparently forgotten.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net