紧急求助: RENEW TN 在Vancouver- Seattle border 被拒(computer system analyst), 留下记录, 请问谁有类似经验, 该怎么处理? 多谢! 详情见内

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我的工作是computer software QA engineer. 第一次TN 在 PEACE BRIDGE 申请 (title: computer software engineer under engineer category), no problem.
TN下月初到期, 我前两天到Vancouver- Seattle border (Pacific highway) RENEW. 公司律师准备的文件-- employment letter 写的是computer software engineer, 律师给border officer 写的是apply under TN category 'computer system analyst'. border officer 说要我改employment letter 的job title, 因为我的工作内容属于'computer system analyst', 要申请'computer system analyst', 公司employment letter 必须是'computer system analyst'.
今天我拿着改好的documents回到border 再申请TN, 碰到另一个OFFICER, 他干脆说我做的是software testing, 不是computer system analyst, 要申请H1B 才行. 怎么解释也不行. 还把我现在的TN 也收走了, 还让我做sworn statement, 留指纹,照相.
不知有人遇到过类似情况吗? 是怎么处理的? 请大家出出主意, 谢谢!

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Last Updated: 2008-11-26
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ask your lawyer to deal with USCIS. my friend had the same situation last year at the same place. company lawyer fixed the problem later. try to renew TN by mail as much as you can. -xnzeng(xnzeng); 2008-11-26 (#4873053@0)

thank you for the reply. company lawyer says she will contact with border to see what the problem is. Do you know what your friend's lawyer did to fix the problem? may I contact with you or your friend? I have PM you my number. -sfbay(bay); 2008-11-26 (#4873923@0)

你当时更本就不应该给他看employment letter, 只要TN letter就足够了，而且你在拒签后应该换个Border申请的。现在你还是要依照Software Engineer申请，参考o net 上对software engineer的定义，重新修改你的TN letter。 -kwirky(kwirky); 2008-11-26 {60} (#4873240@0)

http://online.onetcenter.org/find/result?s=software+engineer

多谢回复. 当时还去同一个BORDER 申请是因为第一个OFFICER只叫我改公司EMPLOYMENT LETTER 的JOB TITLE. 我也曾问BORDER OFFICER 可不可以申请COMPUTER SOFTWARE ENGINEER, 他说需要Engineering degree, 我的degree 是BA in Computer Science, 所以也不行. -sfbay(bay); 2008-11-26 {100} (#4873973@0)
有人以Computer Science degree 申请software engineer, 遇到要求Engineering degree的时候是怎么处理的呢?

我认识有人用computer science degree申请software engineer没有问题的。 -kwirky(kwirky); 2008-11-26 (#4875342@0)

是在BORDER 申请还是MAIL-IN? 在BORDER depends on CBP officer, 像我第一次TN 也是computer software engineer under TN Engineer category. 当时officer 也没有质疑degree 问题. -sfbay(bay); 2008-11-27 (#4876011@0)

第二个officer 为什么能认定你做的是software testing？你仔细读过你的job duties了吗？他问了你什么问题？你怎么回答的？去签之前有些问题你应该准备一下，免得让他们抓住漏洞。 -zjoy(Joy); 2008-11-27 (#4876018@0)

Thanks. 公司employment letter 里JOB DUTY大多是SOFTWARE TESTING 的内容, 也加了几句COMPUTER SYSTEM ANALYST 的内容. 而且写了我以前的工作经历-- 都是QA ANALYST, QA ENGINEER. 需要全改成COMPUTER SYSTEM ANALYST 的内容吗?可是BORDER 已经有记录了,再改也不行吧? -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-3 (#4890343@0)

再请问大家: 我考虑重新以VISITOR 进入美国, 然后境内MAIL-IN USCIS CHANGE STATUS (VISITOR TO TN), 这样是不是比较保险? 根据大家的经验, 如果说要收拾东西, 处理车之类.有多大可能会不让入境(因为TN DENIAL RECORD)? -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-3 (#4890370@0)

大家对这个方法有什么建议? 公司律师不赞成, 说会引起以后more serious immigration issue, if they think your entering as a visitor is actually for status change to TN. it might be considered as a as misrepresentation or fraud. -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-5 (#4896773@0)

我的律师也不赞成在美国境内改变身份。我是拿到H1B批准件后到边境去签证的。 -stpaul(St. Paul); 2008-12-5 (#4896792@0)

但H1B 要到十月份才能开始工作, 且不一定轮得上. 我也听有人境内转换身份,也没遇到什么问题. 出来这两种方法之外,还能怎么办呢? -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-5 (#4896838@0)

依我看，你应该先离开美国，等关系理顺了，再去签TN。 -stpaul(St. Paul); 2008-12-5 (#4896840@0)

很同情你 -stpaul(St. Paul); 2008-12-4 {219} (#4894977@0)

这里的官员都比较坏。当年他们不仅据了我的TN，终止了我有效的TN，还不允许我更改公司信后再来签，否则十年不许进美国。走投无路之下，我在三周内办成了H1B，并在两年半的时间里拿到了绿卡。

楼上有一位说的对，轻易不要去边境延TN。

说说你为啥会被拒签? -kwirky(kwirky); 2008-12-4 (#4895253@0)

他说我本人qulify for a TN visa，但公司的职位不是一个qualified position。 -stpaul(St. Paul); 2008-12-4 {164} (#4895616@0)
他说我本人qulify for a TN visa，但公司的职位不是一个qualified position。而其他相同职位的人也是用的这封TN letter，我本人前一年也是用的这封TN letter，都没有任何问题。

能详细说一下具体职位和你的qualification吗？ -kwirky(kwirky); 2008-12-4 (#4895645@0)
很多年前的事情了吧? -tonyhao(tonyhao); 2008-12-4 (#4895647@0)

About 4 years ago. -stpaul(St. Paul); 2008-12-4 (#4895828@0)

谢谢. 唉, H1B 要到十月份才能开始工作, 且不一定轮得上. 依现在的经济形势,就怕公司裁员,我就是现成的一个. 大家千万别去边境延TN, 我就是血淋淋的教训. -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-5 (#4896764@0)

you should ask your lawyer to help and try TN again, should be no problem. good luck -hunhun(混混); 2008-12-6 (#4899522@0)
没那么恐怖, 大家不用害怕到边境renew TN. 我12月1日刚刚在边境renew了3年的TN. 只要你的资料充实, 同时有一个放松的心态, 是很容易的. 楼主的经历其实是极少的. -apiggy(piggy); 2008-12-12 (#4915293@0)

你第一次RENEW TN时的employment letter job title and the TN letter job title dose not match. That might be the problem your TN was refused the first time. 2nd time, you should change the border to apply for regardless what. Good luck. -dreamplayer(梦溪笔谈); 2008-12-6 (#4899840@0)

急: TN 又被BORDER DENY 了. 公司律师要border review my case, 结果再次DENY. 现在该怎么办呢? 大家有建议吗?我觉得公司律师很没经验, 大家有什么处理TN DENIAL 经验丰富的律师推荐吗? 多谢!! -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-11 {283} (#4914006@0)

公司律师要border chief officer review my case, BORDER就要我再去INTERVIEW,过后, 说我的工作QA Engineer, 即不fit in computer system analyst, 也不fit in computer software engineer. 现在该怎么办呢? 大家有建议吗?我觉得公司律师很没经验, 大家有什么处理TN DENIAL 经验丰富的律师推荐吗? 多谢!!

不用在意学历，我计算数学专业也申请的是工程师。软件工程师也是工程师。和程序员的区别是，工程师主要不是coding, 而是 design and implement。 -dahuangmao(大黄猫); 2008-12-11 (#4914145@0)

我有bachelor's degree in computer science, 学历应不是问题. 问题是software QA engineer 是不是computer software engineer? 或是不是computer system analyst?BORDER 认为不是. -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-11 (#4914393@0)

我觉得根本原因还是楼主在第一次renew的时候准备的资料有问题, 如果两次被拒, 我想可能再找其他的律师机会也不是很大. 但你要坚持不懈的试, 不要灰心. 希望很快听到你的好消息. -apiggy(piggy); 2008-12-12 (#4915327@0)

不要过于迷信律师，对律师来说，TN签证类别小收费低专业性强，绝大多数律师对TN了解相当有限。律师只是把把程序关，遇到细化的专业技术就抓瞎了，你的错误有两个：一是应该换一个关口而不是同一关口重审，二是应该修改job duties。 -nodream(～～～); 2008-12-12 (#4915387@0)
Link for Software QA Engineer description: http://online.onetcenter.org/link/summary/15-1099.01. 你最好找一个熟悉TNVisa的律师咨询一下。看一看你应该申请什么NAFTA approved Profession。祝你好运。 -whynot108(s2w); 2008-12-12 (#4915404@0)

为什么一定要在boarder renew? 处理邮寄TN的人应该比边境的见多识广多了 -transformers(Transformers); 2008-12-12 (#4915417@0)

办理时间上的区别？ -whynot108(s2w); 2008-12-12 (#4915429@0)

Case Closed. We switched to another lawyer who are more experienced in TN. Applied TN at Peace Bridge under Engineer (Software Engineer) with the lawyer's accompany and got it. Thank you for all the help. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-24 (#4944854@0)

Congratulations!! 正在担心下一次的tn renew, 能不能告诉律师的信息？？？ -coffee27(viola); 2008-12-24 (#4945006@0)

PMed you the lawyer information. but their legal fee is quite expensive, if just for TN renewal, I would suggest do a mail-in renew, cheap and least risky. -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-25 (#4946295@0)

Congratulations!也想知道这个律师的信息以防万一，谢谢。另外，renew了一年还是3年。 -usersuserid(昵称); 2008-12-25 (#4946285@0)

Renewed for 3 years. PMed you the lawyer information. again, I switched to them because I have already been refused 3 times. if just for TN renewal, I would suggest a mail-in renewal. -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-25 (#4946299@0)

Could you please pm me for Lawyer's contact. thanks -longhope(hope); 2008-12-25 (#4946347@0)

PMed you. -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-26 (#4947104@0)

Could you please pm me for lawyer's info. Thanks. -bluemountain(蓝山); 2008-12-26 (#4947317@0)
Could you please pm me for Lawyer's contact. thank -luck402(luck); 2008-12-27 (#4948223@0)
Could you please pm me for lawyer's info. Thanks -fudi(fudi); 2008-12-27 (#4948246@0)
all PMed. -sfbay(bay); 2008-12-29 (#4949852@0)
Could you please also PM me the lawyer's contact, TIA. -mcsdocp(mctis); 2008-12-29 (#4950893@0)

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紧急求助: RENEW TN 在Vancouver- Seattle border 被拒(computer system analyst), 留下记录, 请问谁有类似经验, 该怎么处理? 多谢! 详情见内

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