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冷静的考虑, 千万别采取不计后果的一时之快.

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛首先, 问自己, 你真爱他吗? 如果是, 好好去努力, 去协调. 在这里, 有缘有分, 能遇到一个让你倾心相爱, 实在不容易. 这是一个最基本的前提.

男人, 尤其是还不错的男人, 都会有很好的社会圈子, 都会很注意自己的行为, 都有责任感, 而且为这种责任背负着承重. 他决不希望给周围人一个不负责的形象. 为此, 他会做很多在你不可想象的努力. 他有心软的一面, 你可以慢慢的纠正, 切不可去指责.

好的男人, 一般都比较强势, 很多时候, 你接受一个人, 也接受了他的为人, 更重用的是接受他的生活观念和方法. 在最基本的他的心在你这一边, 在他对全心全意忠诚基础上, 你可以帮助他做一些, 理解, 支持, 然后才是以你的方式去改变. 让他知道你是他的支柱, 你是他未来生活的中心.

他爱你, 才会撒谎. 他没有必要脚踩2头. 他同前妻生活了很长的时间, 而且是从年轻的时候开始的, 你同他的时间与此相比很短. 时间能改变这一点, 当你同他的时间越长, 你容入他的生活也越深, 你们之间越是默契, 感情也会越深. 时间越长, 他对以前的生活也会越淡.

你如果过多的抱怨, 指责, 他又不能放弃责任, 那他采取的方法就是所谓的"欺骗", 你知道"欺骗", 更是指责, 他更是不让你知道, 如此儿戏, 不散伙才怪. 告诉他, 你爱她, 你需要他, 女人最有用的是软力量.

你现在的烦恼都会过去的, 随着时间的推移, 你是能笑到最后的.

在感情上, 点一把火不难, 有技巧的让它不断的燃烧, 才是我们努力要做的.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下佳缘 / 情爱悠悠 / 真实故事--我,男朋友和他的分居妻子事。请大家给我出出注意吧。欢迎建议,接受批评,捣乱的不要.
    本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛先说我们的情况--

    我,女,35岁,离异,没有小孩。来加6年,稳定工作,虽然收入不高,但是自给自足吧。性格开朗,脾气柔和,不求大富大贵,但求温馨快乐的家庭生活。

    他,40岁,分居两年多了,有一个可爱的女儿,和妈妈一起过。来加4年,工作也稳定,前景不错。分居原因,据说是因为孩子她妈说已经感受不到他的爱,要追求真正的爱情,去找她当时喜欢上的一个白人,但是后来也分开了。

    孩子她妈,38岁,据他说,是个能力超强的人,国内是大企业的VP,这里也是财务方面的大拿,收入不错。就是脾气不太好,不喜欢做饭,不喜欢做家务,不愿意收拾家。分居后,她告诉他说她打听过了,每月赡养费是工资的25%。于是他也就出了。

    我们交往半年,在一起挺愉快。他喜欢我的一切,和我一样赞成男主外女主内的家庭模式,我也喜欢他的善良和宽容。我和他的小孩相处的挺好的,我本身就喜欢孩子,加上宝贝真的很可爱。我有时候想,为了让他放心,以后我都可以不要自己的孩子,就把她当成我自己的宝贝来疼。他‘看’我看得挺紧,总开玩笑说怕别的男人发现我又漂亮又会做家务,会不会就来挖墙脚?要求我无论什么事都要坦白,和别的男人吃饭最好不要,万一不可避免,也要如实相告,不许隐瞒!我一笑置之,都做到了,全当他是因为喜欢我而紧张吧。

    他很疼女儿,每周至少有两到三个晚上下班后接到他这里,一来陪女儿做作业,因为她妈从来不管女儿的作业;二来给女儿做好吃的,均衡营养,因为她妈不喜欢做饭,就和孩子东凑和西凑和的;每个星期六他雷打不动陪女儿一整天,上音乐课,舞蹈课,美术课等,当然这些钱都是他另外再出(我也支持,毕竟是为了孩子好),他说孩子她妈是不会想着给女儿报这些兴趣班,并陪女儿玩的。他说她妈人不坏,就是对女儿不上心。。。 我说要不然女儿咱们带?他说孩子太小,对妈妈又很依恋,所以不太会跟我们。他每天会和孩子妈通电话几次,他说都是有关孩子的事情。我相信他,因为我觉得喜欢一个人就信任他,要不然就没有必要在一起。时间上我也尽量都迁就他的时间,很少抱怨,我努力做到去体谅他的处境,但是最近发生的几件事,让我很伤心烦恼-- —

    Case1—周末我在他家里正准备晚饭,孩子的妈妈打电话,说她和孩子在外面,天气太冷了,问他能不能开车送她们回家。他心疼孩子,同意了。临走我告诉他,我在家里等他回来吃饭。他说不远,都不用一个小时就会回来。我算好时间高高兴兴做好了饭,等啊等啊,好久才回来,饭菜都凉了。说是孩子她妈说某个商店里有个东西便宜了几块钱,于是就让他开车带她去买,于是就逛了起来。。。我问他难道不知道我在家里等你吃饭吗? 他说他当然知道,心里也着急,所以根本没有陪她们进商店里逛,但是他又不好拒绝,因为孩子妈脾气不好,如果让她不高兴,她可能对孩子不好。。。我不高兴,但是有什么办法呢?我安慰自己说也许是因为孩子她妈还不知道他有个我在等?真希望他能就简单的说他回头有事请而拒绝她。 如果是能省一大笔钱的便宜货,那也值了,几块钱,哎,真是无可奈何。一个人守着饭菜等人的滋味不好受啊,那天我真的伤心了。

    Case 2—我们说好周末带宝贝到瀑布那边有一个室内的水上乐园玩。说来大家可能不信,这是我们交往这么久第一次远游,因为我看他平时加上周末带孩子挺辛苦,再加上工作压力也大,所以如果星期日没有安排,我都会在他那里,给他煲汤做点好吃的,多陪陪他,让他放松放松,虽然我其实一直很想两个人出去走远一点,散散心。这次计划的出游还有宝贝,应该很好玩吧,我很憧憬这次的3人行,第一次呵,好期待!但是到了周三,他吞吞吐吐的说,孩子妈周末有个 重要的考试,早晨要他开车送去,说是怕坐公交车耽误了。我想了一下,误了考试是个大事,那就送吧。我就体量的说,没有关系,我们等你送完了她再动身!没想到他说,那送都送了,还能不接吗?我说都考玩了,不再怕误点不用赶时间,为什么还要接呢?!而且孩子她妈家就住在地铁站的马路对面,都不用走多少路的! 他说等周五问问她再说吧。周五果然是我‘预料’中的答案,孩子妈说,要接,因为她考完试会很累,不想自己坐公车。。。所以我们第一次出游的计划就这么泡汤了。我伤心,但是还是理智地问他说是不是她妈不知道有我呢? 他说她知道,因为孩子回家对妈妈说很喜欢我。。。她妈还提过说孩子和我在一起很高兴。 他还是那个理由,他们10几年的夫妻了,如果需要帮忙,他应该帮,而且,如果她累了,脾气就差,对孩子就会不好。。。我无语,和他告别,回到我自己的家,眼泪止不住地流。他为什么就不能理智地拒绝她,告诉她我们已经有安排了呢? 我在他心里到底是个什么位置呢? 

    Case3 –周六,孩子在他这里,我和他一起做了好吃的,三个人高高兴兴吃饭的时候,孩子无意透露出来说两天以前,他们一家3口一起吃过晚饭。而这件事他当时没有说,这两天也没说,后来我和他勾通的时候他承认并不打算和我说,因为知道我会不高兴,说是反正也没有做什么对不起我的事情。具体情形是那天说好他接小孩,路上遇见孩子妈,孩子一定要和妈妈在一起回家,但是她妈说她累了,他担心她回家又不做饭,所以就带他们一起去餐厅吃的饭。 我怪他处理不当,没有必要一起吃饭吧?真怕孩子饿,买些粥饭让她们回家吃不可以吗?还有,为什么当天不说(我们即使不是每天见面,但是也会每天通几次电话),过后不说,而且也就不打算告诉我呢?说好坦诚相待,为什么他自己就做不到呢?

    我自认不是个任性的女人,我喜欢平和的关系,不愿意一波三折;当然我也知道,一段感情,总会有这样那样的事情,我愿意两个人去交流,去协商处理。但是像上面这些事情,他是期待我能理解他,并赞同他的做法,我发现自己做不到。我相信他说的,和孩子她妈已经没有感情,也不会复合了。他知道我现在萌生去意,所以现在想开始办理离婚手续,希望这样的话,下次出现类似是件我心里能释怀些,但是我明确告诉他,是孩子她妈的要求我接受不了,是他处理问题的方式我接受不了。他们的离婚,其实并不能从本质上改变这种总是有另外一个女人打扰我们的生活的清况。 这种事情以后还会发生,我永远都要去配合另一个女人的喜怒哀乐和作息时间,什么时候是个头呢?

    在我做决定之前,我想听听大家的意见,是我太敏感了,反应过度了吗?我是应该接受这种情形呢,还是应该离开?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 你做的分析挺理智的, 这个人处理感情和亲情的能力有问题,自己婚都没离,却对你和别人吃饭啥的斤斤计较,你即使不和他马上分手,冷静一下也是必要的.
    • 你做好打持久战的准备吧。 也是真实的故事, 我的朋友一直等到他男友的女儿高中毕业才结婚。她等了13年。不过现在很幸福。
    • 离开, 他不care你, 只是要利用你.
    • 记得钱钟书曾经说过:读了大学的女子需找硕士男,硕士女就需找博士男,那流了洋的女博士就只能找双料男博士了。看来现在要加上:未婚的大龄女就只能找离异无孩男,离异无孩女就只能找离异有孩男了?女人何时何地都要对自己好点,何苦要掺合在他们家那些破事里呢?
      • Absolutely.
    • 对“善意的谎言”看法是双面的:
      1,他还想和你好。2,也是男人想脚踩两只船的最好掩饰和借口或者说是手段。有点消极,但也是事实。你看看你能忍受多久,到头来顺其自然,不能忍,你也会自己离开他。你爱他,他爱你么?他更爱他的孩子。你干吗不要自己的孩子?那是你的权利!他如果不愿要你们自己的孩子那就是你眼瞎了,找错了人。
      • SO DAMN RIGHT!!!!
    • 他是个家庭型的男人,而且到了那年纪,也不可能内心把自己当成单身汉,他心里头位的是孩子,和孩子在一起那种家庭的感觉.他不CARE身边的女人怎么样.
      • 说的对.他一定还有些留恋他的婚姻吧,不然一年前他就该离婚了. 更何况原来是他的老婆要离开的,现在如果说她后悔又希望两个人在一起,拿他是不是会为了孩子好而复合呢?
    • Please, sister, please find a man who is legally divorced. GET RID OF THIS ONE.
      • "分居两年多了", according to the Family Law, divorce can be finalized after one-year seperation, why this guy is still LEGALLY MARRIED after 分居两年多了? If he truly wanted to be with you, he would get divorced as soon as possible.
        • LZ and him knew each other for only half a year. So he did not divorce for her is reasonalable.
          • Why get involved with a married man at the first at the first place, even he was just "legally married"?
            • Why? because she simply love him! Do you always ask why before you love anyone? ;)
              • That kind of love is PATHETIC, indeed. Love a MARRIED GUY WITH A CHILD, AND NOT READY TO GET DIVORCED? For me, that is NOT love at all, but stupidity, blindness, and self-DISRESPECT.
                • 是啊,你是杜甫,但不是李白。:)
                  • Even 李白 would not accept it, I bet. :)
              • Of course, for love. If it was just for love, there is no difference between a single man, a married man or a man who is seperated but not divorced. Nothing wrong with being a mistress, as long as all parties accept it.
                • Excuse me. For me, love means mutual respect, not that type of relationship between a married guy and a single lady., and to make things worse, that married guy has no intention to get divorced in the near future.
                  • I have already agreed with you. I am replying #3590874@0.
                    Sometimes I feel I can see you:

                    a pair of inquisitive eyes hide behind glasses; always ready to respond and jump into a debate; slim and short, but one can't miss her even in crowd of hundreds; walk with a frisk pace with a very definite impression on her face; .....

                    Cheers, I am just exercising my imagination.
                • Just a reminder that obviously, LZ DOES NOT accept it, which is why she posted a question mark here.
          • Not for LZ or anyone else, but for himself, if he wants a new life. Obviously, he is not read to get COMMITTED to another woman, which is why he hasn't got divorced after 2-year seperation.
        • 同意asker MM. 那位男士如果真的爱LZ, 应该离婚. 感觉LZ比孩子妈在孩子爸的心目中的份量轻很多. LZ还是果断地撤离吧.
        • Exactly, I'd say the same.
      • Agree with you once.
    • tuantuan,步履,trytry, ivy, asker,烤饼,还有 一家三口--真的挺感动,也非常感谢-- ---
      平时就能看见你们在网上的可爱的,幽默的,犀利的,或者智慧的发言。没想到今天你们能这么认真的给我出主意。真的很多谢。 我和他谈过了,让他改变不容易。我想最后我会选择割舍吧。 祝我,祝他,也祝你们大家都活得快乐!
      • Be strong, sister. You deserve a better guy.
      • 舍得舍得,有舍,才有得.
        • Totally agree.
      • Just give him a chance to take the right actions showing he loves you. Otherwise, he wouldn't deserve your love without knowing what's right thing to do. All the execuse is bullshit.
        • LZ is 35, and how long does she have to wait? Besides, the man seems to care more about his over-10-year marriage than LZ, a woman whom he just met for HALF A YEAR.
    • But you need to be warned: They do not divoice after two years. And the reason for seperation is she does not want him. So he might still love her!!!
      If you want to marry him, you have to get used to a life disturbed by another woman forever, otherwise find another man. From your story, I feel you are really an excellent wife-to-be. Can I get to know you?
      • I am pretty much sure that the guy loves nobody but himself and perhaps his daughter.
        • No. The wife is the one who destroyed the family. She was more successful than husband, so she left him. Simply b'coz she did not get another man, she has not divorced the man temporally.
          I guess the poor man just could not accept this fact. He still loves has wife and daughter.
          • I don't think the wife is supposed to be the only one who got blamed. Both the wife and the husband are resposible for the marital failure. Besides, we don't know the side of the wife's story.
            • Yes, he loves the daughter, but not love his wife as much as you expect, though. Otherwise, he should not and would not have got a girlfriend while staying married.
              • Or, this might be just a strategy to get his wife back to him, since the wife is super capable to earn the family a decent income.
            • The wife had a white man first out of the marriage. She was a VP and is not a traditional wife that every man loves. So she is a very bad wife in the first place. There must be other things we donot know that delays the divorce.
              And LZ gets to know the man for merely half a year, it might be still too early for the boy and girl talking about a new marriage in a common sense.
              • It doesn't matter, and what matters is that at this point, the wife is single, while the husband has got himself a pretty good girlfriend. As long as the wife has nobody, the husband will stay as somebody in her life, and
                she will not let him go easily.
              • Think about why the wife went to the white guy in the first place? Their family might have got some problems long before the white guy showed up in her life.
                • My guess is: a family with a strong wife and weak man (in social status), is an unstable unit in current world with mixed stereotypes of men and women.
                  • I obviously don't care about how the family get into this mess, and what I really care about is that LZ deserves better and LZ should leave this mess once for all.
    • 你也赶快生一个.
      • 千万别,自己委屈还不够,还带累着孩子也跟你受委屈?
      • 以后孩子就穿那个女人孩子穿剩下的衣服,用他们用剩下的玩具,你劳工倒是可以帮你们家省多点钱了。
    • 其实你现在的地位就是被夫人恩准了的妾,哪天夫人不高兴,你的结局就跟尤二姐差不远了。
      • 准!透!LZ 自己怎么看?
      • 正确
        • I doubt that the wife feels happy about her husband's relationship with LZ. To her, the husband is like a tasteless backup who cannot completely satisfy her, yet is better than nothing at the point when she is still single.
          • In other words, deepdown, no, the wife does not accept LZ as part of the family.
            • So she is an evil woman. She is the source of the tragety if any. LZ should persuade man to leave her. If the man did, then they should still have a bright further in front of them. LZ, do you hear me? Don't give up at this point. Not yet.
              • She is not an evil, and nobody in this story is evil. The point is that it is unnecessary to figure out which one is right and which one is wrong, because right or wrong, LZ should leave this mess as soon as possible, and she deserves better.
                • If the man get divorce right now, do you still think LZ should leave her love?
                  • First of all, the man won't get divorced at least in the near future; second of all, even if he does get divorced, still LZ SHOULD GET RID OF HIM, because he has a familial mess which will follow him forever.
      • 你太有才了!!!
      • You are right !! For LZ's boyfriend, LZ only is a spare tire.
    • 这些事情只是刚刚开了个头,从51上找了篇文章让你看看。
      http://www.51.ca/news/show,news,21714.htm,36a61298f9878238c507d107110fe42c,search,%C0%EB%BB%E9

      这个是一个已经结了婚的女人,她的劳工还是比较能够处理他们的关系的,来看看她和劳工以及劳工的孩子的故事吧:
      http://www.51.ca/news/show,news,22822.htm,36a61298f9878238c507d107110fe42c,search,%B2%BB%C8%DD%D2%D7

      等你和他结了婚,可能比这个故事的女主人更不如,因为你的男友更care他们,而不是你。
    • 立刻离开。
    • First, if he loves you, he will try his best to protect you and your feeling not to be hurt.
      Second, you are somehow getting yourself in the situation to be hurt . Today you are not happy what he did, someother day you will not happy what the daughter will do when the little girl grows up.
      By the way, love is treating others the way they want to be treated. If you really can do so, you will be happy no matter what you will choose in the future.
      • Remember, they just started their relationship! (Only half year). While their love develops, the man is preparing to file the divorce application. They may on the track to a happy marriage. Do not make conclusion too early.
        • Why can't you get it that this is nothing about how long he will take to get divorced, or how long LZ and he have been in this relationship? This is about whether the man wants to get divorced or not at all. I don't think he wants a divorce.
          • I guess he is pretty happy, cause he has TWO WOMEN to take care of him and his daughter. The wife is certainly jealous and painful, and perhaps regretful for the seperation.
            • The wife is the one who left the family. Even she is regretful now, it might be because she did not grasp the white man. She is jealous because she see the man is still living well without him. She intentionly tried to estrange them.
              • So you do agree with me that the wife won't let go of the husband easily, don't you? Therefore, what's the point of blaming her for leaving the family first OR SECOND?
                • My point is, donot blame the husband. The wife is the source of problem. The man should not be blamed if he does not decide to divorce and marry LZ because they just got to know each other for 6 months.
                  How could he believe LZ is not the second his ex-wife? It needs time to see. Also the man should not be blamed if he really loves LZ, but he still needs time to figure out how to handle his love to daughter and wife, especially the wife is still doing something to get him back. He needs time to put away his broken old no-hope love and accept a brand new one.
                  • Thanks very much for discussing with me, but I am sorry that I have to leave you alone, cause obviously, you care more about the wife and the husband, while I care ONLY ABOUT LZ.
                    • I care about LZ. I just do not want her miss a cherishable love only based on misunderstandings and your suggestion without knowing the details.
                      • This is NOT a chance, but a MESS for LZ. Hope the Lord can open your eyes right now. :)
                        • LZ last try, get him divorced and marry you. Move to another city or live further from the ex-wife. The man can only see his daughter once or twice every year. If he can do this, don't leave him. Or leave him right now. And contact with me. :)
                          • I am pretty much sure that LZ is smarter and wiser than you, which means she will not waste her time, and give it another meaningless try. :) Sorry that you are smart and wise, but not as smart and wise as LZ.
                            • I mean compared with LZ, you might be more emotional than rational.
                              • LZ也是杜甫? 但我还是觉得李白是更伟大的诗人。
                                • I respect 杜甫 and 李白, but my favorite poet is Robert Frost who is a perfect combination of 杜甫 and 李白.
                                  • Frost's wife loves another man before him. Frost is more practical, more 杜甫 than 李白. :)
                                    • Frost was more spiritual, romantic and symbolic than 杜甫, (similar to 李白), but more realistic, practical and rational than 李白 (similar to 杜甫). I can't tell he was more 杜甫 than 李白, or vise versa, depending on our different perspectives.
                            • Agree. Thank you. :) LZ should move from vancouver to toronto. So we can meet her here. :)
                              • I am not available now, but I fully support your pursuit. :)
                      • I am happy that LZ is rational enough to question the relationship when it is only half a year old.
                        • Very nice to discuss with you! :) You are very good.
                          • Thanks. :)
    • Dump the loser. Right now!!!!
    • 分局有两种情况,离婚也绝非那么简单。先把人靠准了。
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛看得出你是个理智的,善良的,讲道理的好人。浏览先前不少人的回复,也想提点参考意见。
      1, 他们分局是中国人意义上的分局还是法律意义上的分居。中国人把两个人不再一张床上睡觉叫做分居。而法律上两个人分开,并且由分居协议。财产,孩子都清楚。那和离婚已经没有多少区别。除非其中一人需要再结婚,否则,那张纸没有多少用处。
      2, 我不同意有人说的分居一年,离婚就是手到擒来。所以两年没离婚,是他们还不愿以离。固然很多人离婚都是比较简单的,而且大多协议离。但是,也有人分局5 年,10年才拿到离婚证书。这中间,有的是因为达不成协议有没有能力或者不愿意支付几万加元的诉讼费用。有的是因为财产,孩子,抚养费等上法庭不是最好的选择。当然还有其他于原因。但绝不像有些想象的那样简单。所以,你应当搞清楚两个问题:他们是没有去办理离婚,还是,有什么原因不离不成。
      3, 如果男方去意已决,心已伤透。那么两年已经是比较长的时间了。再返回去他也绝对不会再回到原来的感情,而且,这段分离将是未来更大一场战争的高能量导火索。他要明白这一点,你就可以放心和他在一起。无论他们有没有那张纸。否则,你不能肯定,不妨放慢点脚步。

      4, 如果你很喜欢她,他的分居离婚确实有外人不知道的苦衷。建议你朝着对自己有利的方向拉他一把。 以后他再被叫走的时候,你坚持和他在一起。一起接孩子, 一起出去玩, 一起去前妻家里。 适当时候给他一个办完事就走的理由。这样,一来前妻会觉得没趣,以后不会在指示他。而来,他有你在场就会有胆量拒绝VP的纠缠,而且他会感到不能这样难为你而尽快离开。心软的男人这时候需要你给他一点动力。

      总之,这事儿不像有些人说得那样简单。还是要搞清楚事实的真相,具体问题具体分析。你可以暂时不把你们的关系太认真,可以努力和他保持进展,也可以坚决把他来到你的怀中。这是3个层次。都不是坏事,只是不要为了手段丢掉目的。更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 费劲,如其这么折腾,还不如另寻别人了!光阴似箭啊!
      • 说得好,尤其第4点。
    • 冷静的考虑, 千万别采取不计后果的一时之快.
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛首先, 问自己, 你真爱他吗? 如果是, 好好去努力, 去协调. 在这里, 有缘有分, 能遇到一个让你倾心相爱, 实在不容易. 这是一个最基本的前提.

      男人, 尤其是还不错的男人, 都会有很好的社会圈子, 都会很注意自己的行为, 都有责任感, 而且为这种责任背负着承重. 他决不希望给周围人一个不负责的形象. 为此, 他会做很多在你不可想象的努力. 他有心软的一面, 你可以慢慢的纠正, 切不可去指责.

      好的男人, 一般都比较强势, 很多时候, 你接受一个人, 也接受了他的为人, 更重用的是接受他的生活观念和方法. 在最基本的他的心在你这一边, 在他对全心全意忠诚基础上, 你可以帮助他做一些, 理解, 支持, 然后才是以你的方式去改变. 让他知道你是他的支柱, 你是他未来生活的中心.

      他爱你, 才会撒谎. 他没有必要脚踩2头. 他同前妻生活了很长的时间, 而且是从年轻的时候开始的, 你同他的时间与此相比很短. 时间能改变这一点, 当你同他的时间越长, 你容入他的生活也越深, 你们之间越是默契, 感情也会越深. 时间越长, 他对以前的生活也会越淡.

      你如果过多的抱怨, 指责, 他又不能放弃责任, 那他采取的方法就是所谓的"欺骗", 你知道"欺骗", 更是指责, 他更是不让你知道, 如此儿戏, 不散伙才怪. 告诉他, 你爱她, 你需要他, 女人最有用的是软力量.

      你现在的烦恼都会过去的, 随着时间的推移, 你是能笑到最后的.

      在感情上, 点一把火不难, 有技巧的让它不断的燃烧, 才是我们努力要做的.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 你算了吧,简直就是大混蛋。劝 LZ 往火坑里跳,还自以为是大言不惭什么"不轻言弃, 愿天下有情人长相撕守 "。看清楚了吗?真正“不轻言弃,天下有情人长相撕守”"应该是 那两个老夫妻!!LZ 应该及时退出!!
        把两个分居两年都离不开的“有生活了很长的时间, 而且是从年轻的时候开始的,”的感情的两口子,要鼓励LZ去插一脚,活生生拆了一家3口,你够狠心的!!
        你的大理论就算了吧。眼睛不行,相信你的脑子应该好使的。
        • 他的分析很有道理。这个东西各有各的立场,本身就没有对错之分,大可不必这么谴责别人。
    • LZ还是撤退为好。分居两年多了,还没有离婚,恐怕是他不想离。根据加国法律,只要想离婚的一方掌握了对方有奸情的证据,立马就可以申请离婚,而不需要任何等待时间。
      第二,也不存在配偶赡养费的问题,因为他老婆也有工作,收入还不错。关于孩子的赡养费,那时怎么也逃不掉的,按照政府的列表,大约为税前收入的11-12%。

      他爱孩子,而且他们10几年的夫妻了,如果需要帮忙,他应该帮,这也是对的,但是要有分寸,要顾及到你的感受,最好是与你商量,至少也该给你打招呼,如果他真的在乎你的话。

      你是个贤惠的好女人,经济上也不依来与人。我不觉得你的要求有任何过分。离开他,你还会有很多机会的。
    • 为什么为了一个还没有合法单身身份的男人把自己搞得这么被动?!如果他能马上离 婚给offer你一个正当身份,你再考虑这个问题也不迟,女人的年龄是拖不起的, 别再委屈自己了。。。
    • 这种事情热络几个月就过去了,不要放在心上
    • 绝非出于恶意,不解地问:如果你当初肯对前夫如此委曲求全,你们还会离婚吗?记得看过一讨论,新妻几曾隐忍但在一次陪同探访之后崩溃,有人跟贴说她没要孩子带大的后孩子曾很乖巧,7岁时她督促他功课,他翻着眼冷冷问:你是我妈吗,要你管我?她心冷得浑身打颤
      要知道之前她老公娶她爱她还很在乎她,也不溺爱孩子,更别提溺爱孩子妈了,但她活得想死,后来心寒寒地领养了一个“自己的”的孩子,邓婕到了也是领了一个。

      不少初婚嫁二手成功男的跟贴泣诉:离开拖着继子女的老公时,她依然爱老公,老公也爱她,只是要么受不了前妻,要么受不了后孩,崩溃。

      你去搜狐没准搜得着。

      人啊,永远别挑战自己的动物天性,无论是男人抑或女人。自然更别指望别人能战胜天性。
      • 别对他离不离的事发表任何意见,冷眼旁观就可以了,他不离最好免得你日后烦S。目前可以一起接送他老婆,看他老婆累了怎么撒娇,也顺便看看他宝贝谁,最好的结果是:他们的宝贝排第一,你排第二。
      • “永远别挑战自己的动物天性,更别指望别人能战胜天性“, 这个顶一下。虽然人不肯承认自己是动物,冠以“高级”二字,本质上还是动物。很多本性完全相同: 如哺育后代(亲生的),自私自利,弱肉强食。
        • 还有雌妈妈孵出自己的宝贝后甚至赶紧把别人的蛋宝宝啄碎呢,她想自己的宝宝有更多的食物更少的竞争。
          • :)人和动物有很多相同的天性。曾见过有一恶母,自家孩子捣蛋被人说了几句,恨得咬牙切齿;等到她的孩子打得别人孩子伤痕累累,人家找上门,她却笑笑说,这算啥,谁叫你家孩子不哭不喊的,活该。
    • 他在找你解闷,永远不会给你个承诺。
      • 他的妻子在拿他解闷。
    • 孩子的妈妈已经做错过事了而他还挺上心的,而对你先就一个"防"字, 这就是差距呀!
    • “那送都送了,还能不接吗”这叫得寸进尺-----他夫妻俩都是!哪天他会一脸无辜地问你:“那我们孩子都生了,还能分得开吗?”姐姐,你自己看看,人一家的日子照过暂时分开过罢了,你烦得着吗?不如把这贴当征婚贴吧,市场调查结果已经出来了,多伦多单男热烈欢迎你!
      • 好主意,我也是这么想的。(爱羽MM, GG在此欢迎你了。
        • 将 W 4 U 改成 W 4 爱羽,以示诚意,并且 从今天起 你就有 商 标 了 !
    • 你是35岁?还是3x5岁?
    • 有的女的对丈夫比较霸道,而且习惯了,男的习惯了被女的霸道,即使离婚了,女的也习惯她的EX随时听命于她. 你自己应该有主见,如果不是她真有什么实质性问题(比如绝症等),和BF谈谈,不希望他帮他的EX. 孩子的事按分居协议严格进行. 否则,不要在继续你们的关系
      比如她EX考试之类,坚决不让他送,更别说接了. 她考不好和你有什么关系?她自己想办法.如果实在要去,你一起去,办完事立刻走,什么逛商店之事, 坚决禁止,如果你的BF怕EX不高兴,但不怕你不高兴,你应该坚决向你的BF表明态度. 如果他一意孤行, 你应该考虑离开他.
    • 整个感觉是: 2个女人在 Share一个男人,分居妻子追白人没有成功,想吃回头草,男人又想要享齐人之福。LZ 很被动啊!即便离了婚,情况也不乐观。前妻是个比较强势的女人,又有孩子这张王牌。
    • Rolia上的许多事,我很多都以为是逗大家开心的,没想到真有拿真事放到网上来说的,可见LZ已经崩溃了.真羡慕有些人真是好命,可以如此挥霍感情.上帝保佑那些苦苦寻觅幸福的人不至于落失,反得美满! Amen........
    • 两个人一起生活了10几年,还有了一个小孩,彼此都已是对方生活的一个部分了,要切割得干干净净谈何容易。而且从你谈得情况看,他妻子有重归于好的念头。你的BF好像心里也有她。不过,时间会改变一切的。如果你觉得他是你一直等待的人,我劝你留下。
    • 你的cases都是小事. 你的男友心胸宽阔,有责任感, 难得. 调整一下心态, 努力的相处下去, 会有回报的.
      • 你还是真是能忽悠
      • 忽悠一句就撤?不把人俩忽悠成一家可对不起您的大号哦!
      • 男的不懂珍惜,这么好的女人和前妻谁轻谁重应该心里清楚,可能只想要齐人之福吧.
    • 再不离开, 你就成第三者了.
    • 那后来呢,是离了还是分了?