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The reasons ppl (maybe including your friends) want to move to california or some other US states are:

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛not because they have ALREADY got great compensation. If so, they don't need to compare with Toronto's 60K-80K here. They want to compare because they're not sure in their mind how big the improvement is against Toronto's 60-80K.

I think your friend will probably think it's still an improvement, but not big enough. He wants to confirm "how big it is" from other people's comments.

I would roughly say, it's 15-20% improvement , but this is just my own opinion. Different ppl have different weigh on things.

According to http://www.cityrating.com/costofliving.asp, the numbers are much different than our feeling.

For example, 100K in Atlanta is treated as equivelant to San Jose's 184313.82. But from my friend who have worked at both cities, the difference is not that big.

However, maybe your friends and many other ppl did not actually realized that there's another reason for them to choose their current US job wherever it is. The first city in US does not only mean that city itself. It's a gate to United States. It leads to their American Dream.

So 100K in California is good because it's still 15-20% improvement. So he will go and announce that in this forum.
If 90K in California, it's still fine, he will go and sometimes he might announce that in this forum, but probably not.
If 80K in California, well, he will hesitate and try to find a better offer. If he cannot, and he's so eager to go to US(Many chinese people will gain mental satisfaction from being in United States. ), he will still accept it. But for sure, he will not announce that in the forum.

So from above analysis, you will find everyone in US can earn 100K or better from the posts they announced in this forum because if they earned less, they kept silent.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / 请问TORONTO的综合salary和standard of living相当于美国的哪个城市? 谢谢.
    • 有兄弟姐妹在BOTH TORONTO和USA CITIES生活过的吗? 盼望指教.
    • 如果是相等的salary和living, 何必要move?
      • salary.com只可选美国的城市来进行比较, 而我是想比较TORONTO和美国的某城市, 所以才问那个问题的. 您有什么IDEA吗? 谢谢
    • 这些网站都是从洋人的角度出发, 对某些中国人不看好的消费设的权重过大. 如果按这个标准, 加州的钱是非常不值钱的.
      本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛对这些美国城市, 现在论坛上并没有一致的意见. 对多伦多大家也没有一致意见.

      比如说10万年薪这个问题. 吵得沸沸扬扬. 但是, 搞了半天, 说加州和纽约好的人, 在那边也没到10万. 在他们眼里, 以为有些穷州, 不出名的州, 大家只拿个5-6万, 靠消费低在自得其乐吧?

      他们错了. 现在的工作市场, 地区间的工资差别在缩小. 区区10万, 用不着到加州和纽约去挣. 根据我的观察, 我倒是发现很多不太出名的地方, 其实, 工资既高, 生活费用又低, 比如亚特兰大. 丹佛也不错.

      其次是关于多伦多. 这个地方收入差别非常大, 光论坛上的常客, 就有挣20万的, 10几万的, 但也有4-5万都找不到的. 一般而言, 5年以上加拿大经验, 7-8万.

      如果按照这个标准, 多伦多大概只相当于东部的费城, 匹茨堡一类的城市, 西部的萨克里门托(加州首府), 中部的丹佛. 南部的达拉斯. 即使这些城市, 也很可能还稍不如.

      再考虑到加元不如美元值钱, 加拿大物价高些, 很容易得出崇美的结论.

      但是, 这是不全面的. 因为挣钱不完全是唯一的因素. 生活质量还包括其它的内容. 象多伦多这种档次的大都市, 美国只有纽约, 芝加哥, 洛山矶可以比. 再考虑到多元文化的因素, 芝加哥也得排后边去了.

      而且, 加拿大也有它独特的好处. 比如身份问题, 医疗问题等. 就算普遍垢病的气候, 也不是所有的人都不喜欢的. 有些人就喜欢冷点的气候, 雪多的地方.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • Thank you very much, Victor. My friend just got a 100k job in Sillicon Valley and this is why I want to give a shot, too. How do you feel about the 100k in SV and 60-80k in TO?
        • The reasons ppl (maybe including your friends) want to move to california or some other US states are:
          本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛not because they have ALREADY got great compensation. If so, they don't need to compare with Toronto's 60K-80K here. They want to compare because they're not sure in their mind how big the improvement is against Toronto's 60-80K.

          I think your friend will probably think it's still an improvement, but not big enough. He wants to confirm "how big it is" from other people's comments.

          I would roughly say, it's 15-20% improvement , but this is just my own opinion. Different ppl have different weigh on things.

          According to http://www.cityrating.com/costofliving.asp, the numbers are much different than our feeling.

          For example, 100K in Atlanta is treated as equivelant to San Jose's 184313.82. But from my friend who have worked at both cities, the difference is not that big.

          However, maybe your friends and many other ppl did not actually realized that there's another reason for them to choose their current US job wherever it is. The first city in US does not only mean that city itself. It's a gate to United States. It leads to their American Dream.

          So 100K in California is good because it's still 15-20% improvement. So he will go and announce that in this forum.
          If 90K in California, it's still fine, he will go and sometimes he might announce that in this forum, but probably not.
          If 80K in California, well, he will hesitate and try to find a better offer. If he cannot, and he's so eager to go to US(Many chinese people will gain mental satisfaction from being in United States. ), he will still accept it. But for sure, he will not announce that in the forum.

          So from above analysis, you will find everyone in US can earn 100K or better from the posts they announced in this forum because if they earned less, they kept silent.更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
      • 芝加哥
        芝加哥 wrose or similar with Toronto in terms of weather
        芝加哥 much wrose than Toronto in terms of crime rate
        芝加哥 is similar with Toronto in terms of salary
        • one more
          芝加哥 has much less new immigrates than Toronto, so job market is a little better than or similar with Toronto
        • Toronto is not on the same level as Chicago in terms of standard of living and salary. It has much less immigrants. You will know Chicago is a city has a rich history just by visiting its museums, parks etc.
    • 比来比去,what's the point?
    • YJ 贴又来了。大家接着跳
      • 什么是YJ 贴?
        • Somthing happens every month. :-)
          • 我用软件翻译了一下,说是 Moon passes through ?
            • woman period
            • It should be Moon Bible.
        • menstruation