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I realized something about the real world and Matrix

本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛It is easy to confuse the concepts of "virtual reality" and a "computerized model of reality (simulation)". The former is a self-contained Universe, replete with its "laws of physics" and "logic". It can bear resemblance to the real world or not. It can be consistent or not. It can interact with the real world or not. In short, it is an arbitrary environment. In contrast, a model of reality must have a direct and strong relationship to the world. It must obey the rules of physics and of logic. The absence of such a relationship renders it meaningless. A flight simulator is not much good in a world without airplanes or if it ignores the laws of nature. A technical analysis program is useless without a stock exchange or if its mathematically erroneous.

Yet, the two concepts are often confused because they are both mediated by and reside on computers. The computer is a self-contained (though not closed) Universe. It incorporates the hardware, the data and the instructions for the manipulation of the data (software). It is, therefore, by definition, a virtual reality. It is versatile and can correlate its reality with the world outside. But it can also refrain from doing so. This is the ominous "what if" in artificial intelligence (AI). What if a computer were to refuse to correlate its internal (virtual) reality with the reality of its makers? What if it were to impose its own reality on us and make it the privileged one?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
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  • 枫下佳缘 / 情爱悠悠 / 谢谢rolia的网友们,今天终于想通一些道理,MaxtrixGG这个ID今天同大家说再见了
    • bye bye.
      • 握手
    • 也不知道你再回来会编程啥样?
      • 再过二十年,我们 来相会,伟大的祖国该有多么美,天也新,地也新,春光更明媚,城市乡村处处增光辉...
        • 好!二十年之内,你不许回Rolia。说话不算数,是小狗:)
          • I won't show up in the rolia again from tomorrow on, but still you can contact me by PM/Email
            • 有种洗尽铅华的感觉,回到你的现实世界吧。其实,我觉得网络上挺好的。
    • Share with us. What did you figure out already?
      • I want to know, too.
      • I realized something about the real world and Matrix
        本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛It is easy to confuse the concepts of "virtual reality" and a "computerized model of reality (simulation)". The former is a self-contained Universe, replete with its "laws of physics" and "logic". It can bear resemblance to the real world or not. It can be consistent or not. It can interact with the real world or not. In short, it is an arbitrary environment. In contrast, a model of reality must have a direct and strong relationship to the world. It must obey the rules of physics and of logic. The absence of such a relationship renders it meaningless. A flight simulator is not much good in a world without airplanes or if it ignores the laws of nature. A technical analysis program is useless without a stock exchange or if its mathematically erroneous.

        Yet, the two concepts are often confused because they are both mediated by and reside on computers. The computer is a self-contained (though not closed) Universe. It incorporates the hardware, the data and the instructions for the manipulation of the data (software). It is, therefore, by definition, a virtual reality. It is versatile and can correlate its reality with the world outside. But it can also refrain from doing so. This is the ominous "what if" in artificial intelligence (AI). What if a computer were to refuse to correlate its internal (virtual) reality with the reality of its makers? What if it were to impose its own reality on us and make it the privileged one?更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
        • Your english is better than most english speakers. I am afraid I have to get PHD first, and study your essay second. Your points are:
          Computer world is a fake world. Everything on internet is a delusion. You have to be down to earth to get whatever you are looking for. Is that right? Come on , Asker drew this conclusion million years ago. Oh, i am out of breath. From middle school classromm back to university classroom. Keeping on catching up.......What about next stop?
          • next stop is your home:)
            • Oh. you are a lucky guy. I happen to share a apartment with Asker. But you are not scared of Bolo? He said we are all his sweethearts. I just cann't understand for what damn special reason he feels he is a king.
              • let's gather together totally we have 4 persons...haha...
                • You are happy too early. Shoot you first, Bolo next. Happy ending.
                  • don't put me together with Bolo
                    • Cool.
        • It definitely is an interresting topic and can be discussed further if we have time later. Good Luck, guy!
        • Did you figure it out yourself or you are Dr. Sam Vaknin???
          本文发表在 rolia.net 枫下论坛The following paragraphs are quoted from the web page linked below:

          It is easy to confuse the concepts of "virtual reality" and a "computerized model of reality (simulation)". The former is a self-contained Universe, replete with its "laws of physics" and "logic". It can bear resemblance to the real world or not. It can be consistent or not. It can interact with the real world or not. In short, it is an arbitrary environment. In contrast, a model of reality must have a direct and strong relationship to the world. It must obey the rules of physics and of logic. The absence of such a relationship renders it meaningless. A flight simulator is not much good in a world without airplanes or if it ignores the laws of nature. A technical analysis program is useless without a stock exchange or if its mathematically erroneous.

          Yet, the two concepts are often confused because they are both mediated by and reside on computers. The computer is a self-contained (though not closed) Universe. It incorporates the hardware, the data and the instructions for the manipulation of the data (software). It is, therefore, by definition, a virtual reality. It is versatile and can correlate its reality with the world outside. But it can also refrain from doing so. This is the ominous "what if" in artificial intelligence (AI). What if a computer were to refuse to correlate its internal (virtual) reality with the reality of its makers? What if it were to impose its own reality on us and make it the privileged one?

          In the visually tantalizing movie, "The Matrix", a breed of AI computers takes over the world. It harvests human embryos in laboratories called "fields". It then feeds them through grim looking tubes and keeps them immersed in gelatinous liquid in cocoons. This new "machine species" derives its energy needs from the electricity produced by the billions of human bodies thus preserved. A sophisticated, all-pervasive, computer program called "The Matrix" generates a "world" inhabited by the consciousness of the unfortunate human batteries. Ensconced in their shells, they see themselves walking, talking, working and making love. This is a tangible and olfactory phantasm masterfully created by the Matrix. Its computing power is mind boggling. It generates the minutest details and reams of data in a spectacularly successful effort to maintain the illusion.

          A group of human miscreants succeeds to learn the secret of the Matrix. They form an underground and live aboard a ship, loosely communicating with a halcyon city called "Zion", the last bastion of resistance. In one of the scenes, Cypher, one of the rebels defects. Over a glass of (illusory) rubicund wine and (spectral) juicy steak, he poses the main dilemma of the movie. Is it better to live happily in a perfectly detailed delusion - or to survive unhappily but free of its hold?

          and more...............更多精彩文章及讨论,请光临枫下论坛 rolia.net
    • 你别走啊,你走了我们的asker妹妹怎么办呀?刚甜言蜜语完就跑了,太美道德了吧!
      • she is perfectly adapted to her real world, to her I am just an ID on rolia
        • 哇,听象是人鬼情未了
        • You can be the actor and actress in <You got a mail> ,can't you?
          • truth, those romantic stories never happen to most of us; dream, I am expecting it happens to me
            • Every relationship has its own romantic story.You must have yours.Or you would have your.what kind of romantc story would be yours?
              • wanna listen? see PM please
            • 當你真的買了全新的Maxtrix後,一定會美女如雲的,轟都轟不掉,世道如此,人心如此,希冀奇缘,难比登天
              • 什么意思啊?听不懂啊
                • 三十以後才明白
                  • 我已经31了
                    • 真看不出来呀。嗬嗬!
                      • what age do you think of mine?
                        • i thought under 30
                    • 噓OOoo..
                      小聲点,在網上透露自己的年龄是不妥的。

                      加拿大的網友單車遇到無數,特别女性網友,真是太現實啦,與人交往首先想的是能不能帮上她的忙,若帮不上的話她們就不同你來往了,她們覺得同你交往是浪費時間。

                      在壇上混得太久了才真的是浪费时间,我也有大幅度降低刷網时间的想法。

                      脱离虛幻的網絡,步入到現實之中,會使你的各方面大爲必覌的,祝你成功!
                      • yeah...thank you for your kind advise. rolia上有素质的女孩真的太少了
                        • woo, hurt not most ladies here, at least a few.
                          • sister you're 女人, 不是女孩:)
                            • You took wrong medication? Everybody knows i am a over 50 years old lady here except you.
                              • no, I have to release the secret...hotmoon is a beauty in her 30's
                                • So? You mean we are perfect match in heaven?
                                  • sister, are you to say Hotmoon is going to vanish together with MaxtrixGG?
                                    • Yes, yes. Vanish togather. Are you happy now? Yi, strange. I just saw Mr. bicycle's message. Why gone? FBI or ghost? You IT guys play what kind of game. I am dead serious, i am scared.
                                      • Did you see it? I want to reply it but i could not. Tried twice. Then gone. Please stop it. I just heard a ghost story today. Oh, God. Ghost. I need somebody's arms and shoulders right now.
    • Too late to see this post, while I won't say good bye , best wishes or something like that, because I believe you are there forever. :)
      • 哈哈哈...