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@Ontario

Just because he mentioned "moving to Toronto".

victorzhou(patty)
I've been to both Toronto and Seattle. You're right, Toronto's living standard is quite high. The most ridiculous one is the transportation fee, such as car insurance and TTC/YRT/GO price. Car rental price is higher too.

However, the housing and food are cheaper in Toronto. And there're abundant kinds of chinese food. If you ever shopped in Seattle's supermakets, you will feel that you're shopping in Loblaws, or even more expensive.

And the kid-related programs/services are much much cheaper in Toronto.
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  • 枫下茶话 / 美国话题 / 一份美国公司的工作，年薪8万美元，可以在美加任意城市远程工作， 应该选择在美加哪个城市居住？多谢！ -ustax(roliatax); 2006-5-17 (#2977504@0)
    • 建议住白宫。 -baffin(苦瓜); 2006-5-18 (#2977515@0)
      • :-) -xiaoxue_ca(xiaoxue); 2006-5-18 (#2977582@0)
      • it's free, :D -happy30s(goodluck); 2006-5-18 (#2977588@0)
    • Las Vegas! -vetra(piyupiyu); 2006-5-18 (#2977625@0)
    • 那就别搬家了，还是住你的西雅图。 -cadillac(为解放全人类而奋斗的); 2006-5-18 (#2977972@0)
      • 在多伦多是否生活费用更低？想换个地方居住，总呆在一个地方很烦。 -ustax(roliatax); 2006-5-18 (#2977985@0)
        • Toronto has lower living expense than Seattle and it has more multi-culture stuff. -victorzhou(patty); 2006-5-18 {232} (#2978290@0)
          If I were in your case, I will go back to Toronto. But I think living in different place will cause different tax.

          In Seattle, you don't need to pay state income tax. This is a big difference, though the living cost is too high.
          • "go back to Toronto"? you assume he was from Toronto. Living cost is not really high compare Seattle to Toronto. Especially US$ to C$ is almost 1:1 now. -nix(梦似烟花心似水); 2006-5-18 (#2978318@0)
            • Just because he mentioned "moving to Toronto". -victorzhou(patty); 2006-5-18 {522} (#2978372@0)
              I've been to both Toronto and Seattle. You're right, Toronto's living standard is quite high. The most ridiculous one is the transportation fee, such as car insurance and TTC/YRT/GO price. Car rental price is higher too.

              However, the housing and food are cheaper in Toronto. And there're abundant kinds of chinese food. If you ever shopped in Seattle's supermakets, you will feel that you're shopping in Loblaws, or even more expensive.

              And the kid-related programs/services are much much cheaper in Toronto.
        • I see. 80K in Seattle is quite difficult. That's why you posted for help. -victorzhou(patty); 2006-5-18 {267} (#2978319@0)
          If you want to buy a house, move south to Portland. If you don't, move north to Vancouver. Or find a small town between Seattle and Vancouver. Then you can enjoy low housing and life of big cities. Since it's still in Washington, you can keep enjoying no-state-tax.
          • USD8w->CAD9w税前在多伦多也不见得活得滋润啊。俺入加籍都这么多年了，税后家庭收入比这高，现在连房子首期的影子都没攒起来！想买房子不要来多伦多了。 -cadillac(为解放全人类而奋斗的); 2006-5-18 (#2978519@0)
            • "税后家庭收入比这高"? Do you mean you have 90K CA$ after tax? -victorzhou(patty); 2006-5-18 {651} (#2978689@0)
              That should be more than enough to buy a decent house in Toronto.

              However, if you only have 90K CA$ before tax and you have not bought a house, and more importantly, if you want to buy a house in Richmond Hills or some other hot areas, you will be in difficult.

              As you mentioned, it's hard to accumulate $90K-$100K for down-payment with this before tax income. Because you did not earn $90K from the first year. However, it is still enough to afford a quite good house. I think the major reason that you don't want to buy a house now is that you missed the chance to buy when it's still cheap. Now you become hesitated to buy at high point.
        • 搬家是很费钱伤神的东西。上屋搬下屋，不见一箩谷。搬三次家等于着一次火。如果想着这份工作不一定特别长久，包括自己有更好的机会，那就不要动了。当然也可以搬到自己希望找下一份工作的好地方。 -cadillac(为解放全人类而奋斗的); 2006-5-18 (#2978508@0)
        • 总呆一个地方是很闷，但可以多出去走走啊。俺家每年都出远门，今年除外:)。看看朋友或者换个工作环境几个月半年什么的。如果还没伴正好找一个啊。 -cadillac(为解放全人类而奋斗的); 2006-5-18 (#2978535@0)
    • 既然是可以远程工作, 为什么一定要限制是美加的城市呢? -c-c-c(其实,我是一名程序员); 2006-5-18 (#2978695@0)
      • 不是为了照顾帮忙出主意的朋友吗？不然各种需要考虑的因素就太复杂了。 -ustax(roliatax); 2006-5-18 (#2978830@0)
    • 是不是坑啊同学. 不是的话建议去Arizona, Texas 什么的, 据说房子很便宜, 先买一下来, 等走了卖掉. (加州好多人去那里买投资房. ) 而且那些地方又干又热又不靠海, 想象中和Seattle 正相反. 去了估计你就能想起Seattle 的好来. -nix(梦似烟花心似水); 2006-5-18 (#2978809@0)
      • 目前还是个坑。但这种机会遇到过好几次了，可最终没有拿下来。 -ustax(roliatax); 2006-5-18 (#2978826@0)
        • 哈, 白白让俺羡慕半天了.. -nix(梦似烟花心似水); 2006-5-18 (#2978852@0)
          • 你说得有道理，俺的确“错过”了房价低的时期。不过的确到现在也没有攒齐房子的首期。主要因为俺家第一优先是RRSP，其次是RESP，还要回国什么的一次要上w。年纪越大按揭的年期就要越短，估计这辈子想买房子只能期望天降横财了。 -cadillac(为解放全人类而奋斗的); 2006-5-18 (#2978932@0)
            • Sorry，又回错了。 -cadillac(为解放全人类而奋斗的); 2006-5-18 (#2978935@0)
              • 这位同学, 知道错了就好, 就不要再错上加错还回自己的贴. 你可以copy 下正文, 删掉旧贴, 然后贴到该贴的地方. -nix(梦似烟花心似水); 2006-5-18 (#2978994@0)
                • 以前还真不知道该怎么办，老弄错。 -cadillac(为解放全人类而奋斗的); 2006-5-19 (#2980173@0)
            • RRSP可以用来做down payment -tuantuan(givemeabreak); 2006-5-18 (#2978949@0)
              • 一家两口，总共才4万 -vetra(piyupiyu); 2006-5-18 (#2979684@0)

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